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Thread ID: 143720	2017-03-26 06:19:00	capsaicin as pain relief	pctek (84)	PC World Chat

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1433303	2017-03-26 06:19:00	I have arthritis. It plays up, especially if I have been doing stuff - like walking round shops and gardening. So down at Kings yesterday looking for other stuff and I see some mature plants marked chilli. Most were. 2 weren't. I tasted the mini red one, this like the Vine Sweet the supermarkets sells, right? Yep tastes like capsicum. I did ask the guy, he checked and said same family so an easy mistake. It was stuffed with ripe ones and a few green so I bought it. Didn't really need another, but it was too tempting. Go home, plant it, pick the ripe ones, chop them up for the freezer. Go out to have a cuppa and oh god. All of a sudden my mouth is on fire (how long did that take?!), my hands are on fire, my face where I must have scratched my nose or something... so after it all calms down....Go out and pull plant out and squash it up for the bin (not composting that). Oh guess what. The plant itself has capsaicin in it!!! Hands on fire again and no matter what I tried, it stayed that way until well after lunch time today. That cream you can get? Capsaicin, the idea is it overloads the nerve endings and thus "fixes" your other pain. well, no. It doesn't. I ended up with my usual pains plus the chilli pain. Husband thought it was all funny. Well I learned ..... Don't trust a nibble of the vege...eat a decent bit to check The capsaicin idea for pain is bollocks The whole plant has the stuff in it.	pctek (84)
1433304	2017-03-26 07:15:00	Try "Soothanol X2" It works :)	Zippity (58)
1433305	2017-03-26 19:03:00	Hmmm . Does it work on muscle and tendon pain? Answer: My husband did not find this to work for discomfort in his wrist and pain in at the base of his right thumb - probably due to an arthritic condition . Evidently it does work for some people but the expense is pretty high up there to just "try it out . " What are the ingredients? Answer: Menthol and capsaicin .	pctek (84)
1433306	2017-03-26 20:12:00	Yes, amazingly so :) The only trouble is, you cannot buy it here in NZ.	Zippity (58)
1433307	2017-03-26 20:27:00	Shame you can't get Sloans Liniment here which is incredibly effective. We had to import it from USA.	Greg (193)
1433308	2017-03-26 22:05:00	Well I learned ..... The capsaicin idea for pain is bollocks The whole plant has the stuff in it. So, if it worked, I wouldn't need to buy any product, just use the plant.	pctek (84)
1433309	2017-03-26 22:58:00	Hi pctec, I'm a bit of a health freak and do a bit of net searching for healthy solutions. I'm taking one teaspoon ofturmeric and and two tablespoons of ground flax seed with my cereal in the morning and found I have no aches and pains. I keep pretty active, roof repairs and installing underfloor insulation are the latest projects, I'm 76. The combo is good for gut health as welll. I've tried tumeric with our elderly cats, we were considering putting down they, both picked up noticeably, especially the older one with arthritis. It won't work immediatly, takes a little while to build up. I get my turmeric from our Indian spice shop very good prices.	Laggard (17509)
1433310	2017-03-27 02:18:00	Hmmm. Maybe everyone missed the point. The pain thing was a mildly interesting fact I discovered in the process of this whole business. I am not after advice on arthritis control or anything, quite happy with my regimen. I also thought it interesting the whole plant has the stuff in it, not just the vege (fruit) whatever it is. So you could actually use the leaves etc if you wanted... The main point was what an idiot I am getting that plant I insisted was a capsicum.	pctek (84)
1433311	2017-03-27 08:18:00	LOL was a wee bit funny................ lol'd just a wee bit too much i guess.............:D	beetle (243)
1433312	2017-03-27 14:18:00	Once as a dumb kid, I had a sprain that hurt later on in the evening and I grabbed a product called "HEET" that came in a bottle with a dauber inside . I had seen my dad use it some times, and I just used that dauber to rub and rub the liquid on, in and all around the sprained area . In the few moments where I was awaiting some pain relief, I then, at that time decided to read the instructions . DO NOT RUB ONTO AFFECTED AREA . JUST GENTLY APPLY A SMALL AMOUNT UNTIL EFFECT NEEDED IS ACHIEVED . In the next few minutes the "heat" started to climb . . . . and climb it dud until I was sure I could see flames coming off my knee . The next few hours were spent washing, rinsing and generally trying to remove the hellish pain that certainly made me forget all about the original sprained knee . So, I guess it worked like it said: RELIEVES PAIN FROM SPRAINS, ACHES AND ARTHRITIS . Capsacian, as I am informed, is a commercial name for capsicum, a plant exudite . Here in the US we have extremely 'hot' Mexican chili's that it's true havs capsicum in all the plant including the stalk, seeds and fruit . I'm sure the dirt surrounding the plant has it too . I use somewhat a lot of pain relief product on my unrepaired left knee in the form of balms and ointments that contains Menthol, Camphor and the real pain relieving ingredient . . . . Methyl Salicylate - which is very closely related to aspirin . Since I am also on Coumadin as a blood 'thinner' (seriously a misnomer) --- and aspirin is counterindicated for coumadin patients --- I have to be careful to not use these pain relieving balms and rub-on ingredients for fear I can over treat myself and bleed to death internally . It is my thought that the menthol, eucalyptus or any other strong aromatic provides the vehicle for carrying the aspirin-like ingredients into the upper tissue layers . . . . . and although the mechanism of relief from that point is a mystery to me, I am sure that at least some pain relief is accomplished . . . . . at least in my situation . One other interesting product that was somewhat a flash-in-the-pan was to use DMSO* . . . . a horse linamint . The INSTANT you got it on your hand, you tasted something akin to onions and garlic mixed with licorice . My dad used it on his knees for years, and although it caused him no untoward life threatening damage, it lost efficacy in a few months at best . PS . . . he lived to over 100 . He had both of his knees replaced too . . . . a family tradition I am finding . *Dimethyl sulfoxide ( . dmso . org/articles/information/muir . htm" target="_blank">www . dmso . org) I do not know if DMSO is available in youse guys-es place .	SurferJoe46 (51)
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