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Thread ID: 143647	2017-03-06 09:40:00	For 50+ years I have voted Labour ... but no more !	Misty (368)	PC World Chat

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1432525	2017-03-07 05:32:00	Because they contributed the most to it. I wouldn't give the "Professional Bludgers" anything, let alone the same amount. :( So I'm guessing your too proud to collect the pension then?	gary67 (56)
1432526	2017-03-07 06:29:00	So I'm guessing your too proud to collect the pension then? In keeping with your normal logic you are wrong again. :rolleyes: I am more than happy to collect my pension given the amount of tax I’ve paid over the years and the number of people I’ve employed. How about you? Worked all your life on wages and continuously moaned about the boss I guess. :rolleyes:	B.M. (505)
1432527	2017-03-07 06:48:00	In keeping with your normal logic you are wrong again. :rolleyes: I am more than happy to collect my pension given the amount of tax I’ve paid over the years and the number of people I’ve employed. How about you? Worked all your life on wages and continuously moaned about the boss I guess. :rolleyes: A pom moaning? You are kidding BM never heard of it before.	prefect (6291)
1432528	2017-03-07 06:54:00	Lets call it what it is. Welfare . Not a right just because someone "worked all their life" , we all did . . Yes. And as welfare what welfare is paid to absolutely everyone regardless of their need? Lets go on about paying taxes too. The big corps don't, The workers do. OK the high paid workers. So should all medical care be stopped because those earning the most may not have needed to use it? Or schooling. Private school kids, so lets can the public schools then because those who make the most money - and (in theory) pay the most taxes are not going to use it? Same thing really.	pctek (84)
1432529	2017-03-08 01:17:00	Just goes to show those who whinge about handouts are still in the queue for them. I have been an employee and an employer, I also made alternative arrangements for my old age as I doubt the pension will be worth having. Still some on here think the world owes them for their failings blaming anyone but themselves.	gary67 (56)
1432530	2017-03-08 02:15:00	More absolute rubbish! :rolleyes: Superannuation is not Welfare. It is a fund akin to an endowment insurance policy, except you don’t collect a lump sum at 65 (if you qualify for membership), you get a fortnightly dividend. The reality is the Government haven’t contributed any tax to it since 2009 as it has been self sufficient with its earnings. I suggest you read about how it works HERE (en.wikipedia.org) and what you have shares in HERE (www.nzsuperfund.co.nz). Oh, it must be all right too because it was a Labour initiative courtesy of Mr Cullen. :lol:	B.M. (505)
1432531	2017-03-08 03:49:00	From memory, it was Jenny Shipley in the 1990s that turned superannuitants into "beneficiaries" and removed the concept of entitlement, and instructed Department Of Welfare staff to use the term beneficiary when referring to a pensioner.	Terry Porritt (14)
1432532	2017-03-08 04:41:00	From memory, it was Jenny Shipley in the 1990s that turned superannuitants into "beneficiaries" and removed the concept of entitlement, and instructed Department Of Welfare staff to use the term beneficiary when referring to a pensioner. Geeez Terry, go and wash your mouth out! Fancy using language like that. “Jenny Shipley” indeed. :rolleyes:	B.M. (505)
1432533	2017-03-08 04:45:00	Aaaah Shipley... the one who pushed for lowering the drinking age, her reason being that her children were responsible youths and all young people were the same. Always thought that either she was stupid or she was looking after the alcohol industry. Ken	kenj (9738)
1432534	2017-03-08 05:20:00	Back in post #9 you called everyone on the pension a bludger, short memory syndrome I think its called. Since I'm not allied to any party who cares which idiot thought it up.	gary67 (56)
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