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| Thread ID: 77285 | 2007-03-04 21:36:00 | Top Gear finally reports on an ordinary car...... | Billy T (70) | PC World Chat |
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| 530081 | 2007-03-06 06:17:00 | The moment GST came in all cars had the same duty rate. When given a choice, people chose. No more English cars. | R2x1 (4628) | ||
| 530082 | 2007-03-06 06:20:00 | There were Jap cars well before the Civic - eg the pre Nissan (forget what they were) complete with copied Austin A40 engine right down to the lifting bracket bolted to the top. Don't remember an Arabella but well remember the Isabella - nice looking car for the times but you didn't see them very often as they spent most of their time in the garage.p The Isabella was the two door version of the Arabella. They sent most of their time in the garage. No. They spent ALL their time in the garage. |
JJJJJ (528) | ||
| 530083 | 2007-03-06 08:04:00 | I don't think thats a very fair comment Billy, the car market in the UK is very different to the car market here in NZ. Which comment wasn't fair? That Top Gear doesn't test ordinary cars, or that Clarkson regularly slates cars from premium manufacturers and contradicts any positive comments from Hamster? Granted Britain has more European cars that we do, probably due to common market price fixing: "you take one of ours at a discount and we'll take one of yours at a discount and we'll all be happy") but a lot of what we see here (and what I referred to from our perspective as "ordinary cars") are available but never get tested. They just provide regular reliable and economic transport so they aren't controversial enough. Clarkson is a boofhead, admittedly an entertaining one, but a boofhead nonetheless, and I watch the show for the real-world insights of Jeremy and Hamster, which is why I liked the Mazda 6 review and was astounded that Clarkson was de-boofed for once. By the way, it turns out the Hino Contessa was a Japanese version of the Renault Dauphine built under license and given minor cosmetic surgery so it's not surprising that it looked pretty, in fact it looked nicer than the Renault version. Cheers Billy 8-{) Edit: I'm not so sure that the Mazda 6 inhabits the same market segment as Audi, Volkswagen, Mercedes, BMW etc either. It is considerably cheaper than any of those badges and is an honest workhorse, not a posturing pretender. |
Billy T (70) | ||
| 530084 | 2007-03-06 09:58:00 | Clarkson is a boofhead, admittedly an entertaining one, but a boofhead nonetheless, and I watch the show for the real-world insights of Jeremy and Hamster, which is why I liked the Mazda 6 review and was astounded that Clarkson was de-boofed for once.You ever read any of his books? Just because he's more articulate and passionate when describing the pros and cons of cars than you doesn't make him a "boofhead", whatever that's supposed to mean. | Greg (193) | ||
| 530085 | 2007-03-06 10:39:00 | I own one. And pay for the petrol. Probably gives me a slight edge over the D & L Guide, sorry to say. Don't always rely on the "experts"...the best guide is usually personal experience. But I think I mentioned that before..... But there is no way a maxima does 10 litres/ 100 km . The maxima has a big 3 litre engine, compared to a much smalled 2 litre engine for the mazda. I have a friend who switched from a maxima to a mazda 6, and they say that they are saving heaps on fuel. You figure for the mazda is correct , but your maxima figure is way off. You may be getting more fuel efficiency, but you may not be driving over 50km/h |
rogerp (6864) | ||
| 530086 | 2007-03-06 18:58:00 | I have a 2000 Ford Falcon. I think it runs quite well. Bought new, but not worth changing as it wouldn't be worth that much and it still runs well. My wife has a nice low mileage Ford Focus (they got a pretty good review on Top Gear a while back). I listened to a radio commentary on cars a while back. The presenter said, that if some one needed to tow a trailer or a boat (I use a trailer often) then a Falcon or Commodore would fit the bill - they're OK. For a family car he had 3 golden rules "Toyota, Toyota, Toyota". Or any Jap car, they're pretty good. He went on to say, never, never buy European. One persons opinion I suppose? |
jcr1 (893) | ||
| 530087 | 2007-03-06 23:42:00 | I have a 2000 Ford Falcon. I think it runs quite well. Bought new, but not worth changing as it wouldn't be worth that much and it still runs well. My wife has a nice low mileage Ford Focus (they got a pretty good review on Top Gear a while back). I listened to a radio commentary on cars a while back. The presenter said, that if some one needed to tow a trailer or a boat (I use a trailer often) then a Falcon or Commodore would fit the bill - they're OK. For a family car he had 3 golden rules "Toyota, Toyota, Toyota". Or any Jap car, they're pretty good. He went on to say, never, never buy European. One persons opinion I suppose? I would concur, and so would the dog and lemon. All the european cars I have had, they have developed reliability problems after about 2-5 years. There are almost no european cars that are rated good or better in terms of reliability. For amedium larger sized family car, the cars that rated excellent for reliability and safety were the Toyota Camry & Subaru Legacy. Mazda 6 and honda Accord were also rated good. |
robbyp (2751) | ||
| 530088 | 2007-03-07 02:35:00 | You ever read any of his books? Just because he's more articulate and passionate when describing the pros and cons of cars than you doesn't make him a "boofhead", whatever that's supposed to mean . I think you may have misread me a little there Greg, and it has nothing to do with comparisons of articulacy or passion . I like JC and enjoy his writings, but his boofhead (jerky) behaviour on Top Gear often grates . He belittles his co-presenters, and the audience, and generally acts overbearing and rude . Most of it can be taken as good fun, but sometimes he stretches the envelope a little too far, and you can see it on peoples' faces . There is a fine line between brilliantly acerbic wit and outright put-down sarcasm, and I'm not sure he knows intuitively where that boundary lies . The best illustration I can give is this: When delivered by Blackadder to Baldric it is funny, from host to co-presenter or audience member it is not . Your mileage may vary . . . . . . . . . . Cheers Billy 8-{) |
Billy T (70) | ||
| 530089 | 2007-03-07 02:47:00 | He belittles his co-presenters, and the audience, and generally acts overbearing and rude. Most of it can be taken as good fun, but sometimes he stretches the envelope a little too far, and you can see it on peoples' faces. Oh come on Billy, it's TV! Would Top Gear be half as popular without Jeremy doing his schtick? His arrogance played off against both audience and Hamster and Capt Slow is the central plank of the entertainment factor. Without it it would just be another car show. |
Biggles (121) | ||
| 530090 | 2007-03-07 03:19:00 | Oh to be as quick witted and have such a brilliant turn of phrase,JC for me,brilliant lad. | Cicero (40) | ||
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