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Thread ID: 77489	2007-03-11 20:21:00	Vista is taking off	Hitech (9024)	PC World Chat

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532040	2007-03-13 10:54:00	Although I know there are many businesses refusing to upgrade, I also know that many large corporates like General Motors are upgrading all their desktops to Vista immediately! I'll be honest, I'll hold off using it for as long as I can (simply because my hardware is too dated.. 128MB Ti4200, 1GB Ram and a 3200+ AMD Athlon-64) but Ive gotta use it a bit and get to know it because of the number of people I have to support that I know use it or are going to come into contact with it. The price is a turn-off, all the more reason to get it with a new PC as-mentioned. ReactOS sounds more and more appealing, sadly its nowhere near the rest of the playfield of OS's out there... I like potato-top pies!	Chilling_Silence (9)
532041	2007-03-13 14:49:00	I like potato-top pies!You're a sad man Chill. :stare:	Greg (193)
532042	2007-03-13 23:01:00	Fair point, and I surpose in this scenario Metla's Vista failure would be a done deal. However I think it is way too early to make that call on Vista yet. But Vista does, again, highlight the uneasy relationship between the business customer and the home consumer for MS. Like I say, officially we still perfectly happy running Win2000 at work. What an IT manager wants out of a new Windows OS, and what Joe User wanst out of it are not necessarily the same thing. Its possible home users will embrace it -- for whatever reasons, good or bad -- while companies will find XP does all they want. But again, I think it is ar too early to draw the conclusion that this will happen. MS has to have banked (forgive the pun) on much slower adoption in the corporate sector and I doubt the financial types are running around in March 2007 burning their swipe cards just because the corporate sector hasn't ordered truckloads of Vista upgrades.... Absolutely, there's no certa	Murray P (44)
532043	2007-03-13 23:21:00	Righto, 2 of the big guns here think Im wrong.:D In which case i'll just disagree...silently( Sif an Editor of PCworld knows anything:thumbs:) Though on a final note, I declare Vista a failure for not being able to bring anything worthwhile to the market even if in the long run it does better then XP (and surely this is the benchmark?, or is it that there is no benchmark and whatever happens its a success because new PC's are still sold with an MS product?), a 3d gui and a bunch of user nag screens doesn't warrent a new platform. Hell, Why didnt they just release a new OS every two years with just a few tweaks, and inplement the new gui and file system when ready, Then we could have users on windows Xp 2002, XP 2004, XP 2006 3D edition, etc etc, Sure no one would upgrade, Nor would anyone buy a new comp just because of the new OS but after all according to whats been said the mark of success is that new PC's continue to be sold with an MS OS not the generation of increased sales. In which case I could have saved MS billions, and a fair bit of losing face, all they had to do was ask and give me a couple mil. Wait, My stance is to silently disagree, Ill start that....................NOW.	Metla (12)
532044	2007-03-13 23:40:00	Though on a final note, I declare Vista a failure for not being able to bring anything worthwhile to the market even if in the long run it does better then XP (and surely this is the benchmark?, or is it that there is no benchmark and whatever happens its a success because new PC's are still sold with an MS product?), a 3d gui and a bunch of user nag screens doesn't warrent a new platform. Time will tell. 2 years from now you may be regarded as a prophet.	Biggles (121)
532045	2007-03-13 23:43:00	Rats, I lost my post to the slow edit disease that sometimes infects the site . It was just the usual load of quality tosh, i . e: Too slow to release what is essentially an upgrade to XP which doesn't provide compelling reasons for corporates to uptake . DRM infection may piss off a reasonably large segment of the user base . Nothing to see yet as far as Vista's flop, though, I'd personally like to see MS get a flattened nose, lose a few teeth and have knee problems, because it might restore some of the balance back to the users (improve MS software :eek: ), which is currently all in the vendors favour . Trisha's potato top pies make all other potato top pies pish .	Murray P (44)
532046	2007-03-13 23:52:00	Time will tell. 2 years from now you may be regarded as a prophet. Pffffft! I am know.	Murray P (44)
532047	2007-03-14 00:11:00	A prophet is what large corporates like GM need more than Vista. Maybe it's being given to them.	PaulD (232)
532048	2007-03-14 05:01:00	Time will tell. 2 years from now you may be regarded as a prophet. Funny that.. www.wanganuichronicle.co.nz	Metla (12)
532049	2007-03-14 07:06:00	According to recent news reports there are now 3 US government agencies that have banned the purchase or installation of Vista, the latest being the National Institute of Standards and Technology (NIST) in Colorado. "Recently, the U.S. Dept. of Transportation and the Federal Aviation Administration have also expressed various degrees of concern about Vista regarding compatibility with current software and the costs of the migration respectively. Recapping recent coverage, InformationWeek said, "FAA CIO Dave Bowen told InformationWeek that he may forego upgrading the aviation safety agency's computers to Microsoft's latest offerings in favor of desktops running some combination of Linux and Google Apps, Google's new online suite of office productivity tools." The Federal Aviation Administration alone amounts to about 46,000 desktops so if that constitutes Vista "taking off" or being "widely accepted" because it represents a great Return On Investment or NOT as the case may be then maybe this could be a very flat year for Microsofts revenue/profit forcast and a knock to their share price/market value.	winmacguy (3367)
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