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Thread ID: 77578	2007-03-14 08:24:00	Sunday TV One Its about Broadband Again	Hitech (9024)	PC World Chat

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533020	2007-03-19 01:16:00	If we are 22nd worst out in a list of 24, doesn't that mean we are the 2nd best? :) The cost is largely due to the labour involved with laying the cables . What has made it uneconomical in part, is the resource management act, where new cabling must be laid underground . Telstra managed to get away with laying alot of their cables above ground on telephone poles in Wellington, which would have saved them a lot of money, but they got a lot of criticism due to the cables being an eyesore . I think wimax would cut down a lot of that cost . Just want to pull you up on your comments on the RMA and those that followed . The RMA is actually a permissive act, not a prescriptive act . That is to say, that anything goes unless it is outside the broad guidelines or breaches other laws . What policy and how it is written (i . e . the District Plan . Though they follow a formula,) your Territorial Authority (TA) applies and how it administers and enforces the District Plan, by and large sets how much impact the RMA will have on various activities such as stringing cables up on posts, not the act itself would, perhaps, be the reason for fibre being uneconomical (that's arguable anyway) . The public does have input to the various TA's Plans, though how much sway there is, I'm not sure . I know the RMA is far from perfect, but what mechanism for control of activities would you have instead? Would you go back to each county and council having its own, often disparate, rules and bylaws? Nowhere is it written in the RMA that utilities must be run under ground . Nowhere .	Murray P (44)
533021	2007-03-19 03:35:00	Just want to pull you up on your comments on the RMA and those that followed . The RMA is actually a permissive act, not a prescriptive act . That is to say, that anything goes unless it is outside the broad guidelines or breaches other laws . What policy and how it is written (i . e . the District Plan . Though they follow a formula,) your Territorial Authority (TA) applies and how it administers and enforces the District Plan, by and large sets how much impact the RMA will have on various activities such as stringing cables up on posts, not the act itself would, perhaps, be the reason for fibre being uneconomical (that's arguable anyway) . The public does have input to the various TA's Plans, though how much sway there is, I'm not sure . I know the RMA is far from perfect, but what mechanism for control of activities would you have instead? Would you go back to each county and council having its own, often disparate, rules and bylaws? Nowhere is it written in the RMA that utilities must be run under ground . Nowhere . Because it is not a prescriptive act, it wouldn't . However the public now demands underground services, instead of these thick cables above the street which are an eyesore . Going undergrounds cost more money to install, unless the various providers actually coordinate the installation of services so thay are installing multiple services at one time . However from my experience this is rare . I think the pavement outside my house was ripped up 3-4 times in 2 years, while different providers installed different underground services . I think we had a new gas line, a new water main, a Saturn Cable, and probably a Telecom cable installed, all on seperate occasions . This is so inefficient and it is the consumer who ends up paying .	rogerp (6864)
533022	2007-03-19 03:45:00	Check out this site http://speedtest.net/	rogerp (6864)
533023	2007-03-19 05:35:00	I am always reminded of the council types,waiting for another lot of council types to fill in the hole and remake road,so that they could proceed to dig there trench and remake there mess. Efficient indeed. Even happens on a house bulding site. So far next door they have dug 2 trenches,sewer and water,2 more to go.	Cicero (40)
533024	2007-03-19 08:54:00	Better be careful not to breach copyright laws :) actually you don't have to put it online, because TVNZ actually have the whole content on their Sunday website already... :p :eek:	jackyht2002 (6606)
533025	2007-03-19 13:36:00	Laura, whilst not disagreeing with you that much :), what the program did not make clear in any way shape or form for the average viewer who happens to be on Go Large is the principal reason why their broadband is so slow. ..And that reason is not inadequate 'backhaul' or lack of investment, it is that the traffic management plan with Go Large is/was not working from the word go. All traffic on that plan is being 'managed' as though it was P2P 24/7, with the result that many/most on Go Large are only getting a few kilobytes per second download. The traffic management in reality is not what the Telecom conditions stated. And once again no mention of contention ratios being so bad 148, world average 80, UK 50 or 54	mikebartnz (21)
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