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Thread ID: 77578	2007-03-14 08:24:00	Sunday TV One Its about Broadband Again	Hitech (9024)	PC World Chat

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533010	2007-03-18 10:57:00	Another triumph for privatisation and all the benefits it has brought to us.	zqwerty (97)
533011	2007-03-18 11:04:00	Quite safe. With dubious speed capabilities available, the copyright (and a lot of us) will probably expire long before he can upload it never mind the time for us to download it. :D See how Aunty Theresa protects us from ourselves? Had you not noticed that "Aunty" has gone? What is it with the bashers. Probably should refer this thread to another whom thinks ISPs do nothing.	Sweep (90)
533012	2007-03-18 11:07:00	I was wondering, how much does it really cost to increase capacity for urban broadband users? The reason I ask is, I had heard the cost of heavy duty telco equipment had plummeted in the last few years. I don't know the technical details, I'm asking in the context of the apparent "Chinese challenge" to companies like Cisco in (bigass) routers and switching equipment. So Telecom says a local exchange has capacity limitations. Is upgrading today really the huge capital investment it might have been 4-5 yrs ago? Likewise for new companies to install their own gear. Telecoms capital investment vs dividend policy seems to give a bit of leeway... If not now, is the trend meaning it'll be realistic soon? Not ADSL 2+ or whatever 24MB dreams, just what us unlimited payers were promised when we signed up. (consistant speeds 3.5Mbs+ would be nice).	mmmork (6822)
533013	2007-03-18 11:19:00	I blame the Government for selling Telecom to an overseas company. Now we only have the shareholders of the company to blame. They just want to watch their shares go up and down and buy or sell when it appears they will get an advantage by doing one or the other. Then we can blame heavy users who want to download a few Gigabytes per day. Oh.... Not forgetting all users of this forum. We add to the bandwidth don't we. Adding to the bandwidth use are heaps of bots out there. Don't forget Spam and the average user trying to send a 35 meg pic or two to relatives. Sigh.	Sweep (90)
533014	2007-03-18 11:58:00	Had you not noticed that "Aunty" has gone? What is it with the bashers. Going - - going - - But not forgotten.:groan: Somebody has been getting absolutely up-to-the minute money for a state of the ark service for quite some time. Now some of their 3rd world "help service" comes from - guess where? I do not use Telecoms lamentable service at my end of the loop. and consider the premium I pay is justified. (If you think Telecom are the bee's knees, and wish to sample their wares, have fun.) I don't think the service I receive is good, just better than the other crowd which may still have wee Theresa for a little while yet. When allocating blame, consider what would happen if 50% of the users said they were opting out due to abysmal service, would efforts to smarten up occur? If users meekly accept a sloppy service, then rest assured, they will get it. Ah well,now for the good news - it was a fine day anyway, and no parrots were killed on our stretch of road. A spokesman for parrots said she was well pleased. I must away now, it is only a little over an hour before I have to change the date for the rest of the world. ;)	R2x1 (4628)
533015	2007-03-18 12:09:00	I was wondering, how much does it really cost to increase capacity for urban broadband users? The reason I ask is, I had heard the cost of heavy duty telco equipment had plummeted in the last few years. I don't know the technical details, I'm asking in the context of the apparent "Chinese challenge" to companies like Cisco in (bigass) routers and switching equipment. So Telecom says a local exchange has capacity limitations. Is upgrading today really the huge capital investment it might have been 4-5 yrs ago? Likewise for new companies to install their own gear. Telecoms capital investment vs dividend policy seems to give a bit of leeway... If not now, is the trend meaning it'll be realistic soon? Not ADSL 2+ or whatever 24MB dreams, just what us unlimited payers were promised when we signed up. (consistant speeds 3.5Mbs+ would be nice). I think they biggest cost is human labour and wages, then there electricity, rates and other services that have to be paid, all of which go up never down. Although pricing of some of the hardware may have gone down, so has the price that people want to pay for broadband. ISPs used to charge heaps, but the price of broadband has now come down a lot, so there margins must have also decreased.	rogerp (6864)
533016	2007-03-18 12:34:00	For the people who missed the story here (theend.nsbase.com) is the video clip of it. (US server) | Size: 19.5 MB | Duration: 17 min – 38 sec | Format: WMV – Windows Media Player I have removed the ads & the start of "Sunday". I Hope its OK? & if you have any problems with it let me know Enjoy :) PS: if any one has any problems with the above link I will upload a mirror copy of it tomorrow afternoon (I will be out all morning) Night All! :D	stu161204 (123)
533017	2007-03-18 19:37:00	I think they biggest cost is human labour and wages, then there electricity, rates and other services that have to be paid, all of which go up never down. Although pricing of some of the hardware may have gone down, so has the price that people want to pay for broadband. ISPs used to charge heaps, but the price of broadband has now come down a lot, so there margins must have also decreased. Roger ! I am now convinced that you work for them. Why do you keep apologizing and making excuses for them ? As everyone knows we are just about the worst in the world for Telecom services and pricing. So if that is true, and it must be, what would YOU like to suggest that New Zealand does to allow New Zealanders to climb up that ladder and be nearer th top of the OECD ? because as everyone else also knows we are THE country most further from the rest of the OECD geographically. Regards Digby	Digby (677)
533018	2007-03-18 21:16:00	The Swedish government has announced a broadband plan to help information technology permeate the farthest corners of the country. The government's proposal, a funding package of nearly $20 billion to enable the construction of high-speed Internet networks, will directly compete with the country's national operator, Telia, and other operators. Roughly half of Sweden's populace logs onto the Internet at least twice a week. The government's plan will ensure that the country's rural and northern areas have access to broadband networks. All operators will have access to the new government-sponsored network. The government's plan is unique to Western Europe, according to analysts. (Financial Times, 30 March 2000) and The federal government has promised broadband for all with the announcement today of its AU$162.50 million Australian Broadband Guarantee. The Guarantee is expected fill any remaining broadband blackspots across Australia, according to a statement from Communications Minister, Senator Helen Coonan. Coonan said it would provide a smooth transition to the government's AU$600 million Broadband Connect infrastructure program. "The Australian Broadband Guarantee will provide universal broadband for all Australians. Anyone unable to gain a reasonable level of broadband service at their principal place or residence or small business will receive a subsidised broadband service. It's as simple as that," she said in the statement.	pctek (84)
533019	2007-03-18 23:33:00	When a Minister (any minister) says "It's as simple as that." - it isn't. No Government can ever give anything it hasn't first taken. (Murphy's 19th. law.) And Murphy's 18th.? "Bad news is coming." ;)	R2x1 (4628)
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