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| Thread ID: 77634 | 2007-03-16 20:35:00 | NZ Council Sues Self...... And Wins | SurferJoe46 (51) | PC World Chat |
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| 533661 | 2007-03-17 22:34:00 | Strictly speaking, Trinsic, if you're living down Matamata way, you're actually a hobbit - "Hobbiton" is the name of the village where the hobbits live (but remember, it's just a story!!!):D Ouch yes thats true. I drive past the sign every now and again. But I don't think I would blend in being over 6foot and all. |
trinsic (6945) | ||
| 533662 | 2007-03-18 01:57:00 | The entry test for potential councilors is the same as the entry test for becoming a Microsoft dealer, i.e. nada - zilch - nothing. ...Of course, the same standards apply to politicians of all flavours - local or national!! :groan: | johcar (6283) | ||
| 533663 | 2007-03-18 02:26:00 | lol i wouldn't actually expect this from typical westies, but our council is typically retarded, as councils tend to be. i wouldn't be surprised if the reason they had to move the railway was to avoid cutting down a tree. (and no they wouldn't change the building plan, plan it with the tree considered, or consider that all the **** this building causes is much less green than building a second one on their old grounds where it doesn't ruin traffic.) they even started playing classical music outside the plaza on gt. nrth rd buy the mall exit to try to scare of anyone under the age of 60. IT'S A MALL ***, right by a burger king, mcdonalds, movies, bowling, etc etc just goes to show the fundamental flaw in democracy: by the time anyone gets through the beurocracy to get into power it's been so long the have forgotten why they did it in the first place and what people actually want. i hear north shore wouldn't remove a half dead tree hanging over a road, sure enough it fell down 3 months later, crushing a few cars and downing power lines Ah, so you'll be standing at the next local body elections - to raise the standard & change a few things? |
Laura (43) | ||
| 533664 | 2007-03-18 05:40:00 | On the whole Christchurch City Council do a pretty good job but one thing has always puzzled me. Some 15 years or so ago a local person built a roller skating rink for the local kids. In the middle of fairly intensive housing it was within walking or cycling distance of just about all regular users. But the council insisted on a massive car park - despite it being pointed out that most kids didn't drive. Yet when I use the local libraries which are used by lots of motorists the car parking that has been provided is absolutely minimum and just nothing like adequate. One rule for the public, another for the council? Tom |
Thomas01 (317) | ||
| 533665 | 2007-03-18 05:44:00 | Ah, so you'll be standing at the next local body elections - to raise the standard & change a few things? why? i'd need atleast half of them to agree with me, and seeing as they all enjoy classical music and have no grasp of reality i'd be wasting my time.... and i don't have much time to waste with my BE and all |
motorbyclist (188) | ||
| 533666 | 2007-03-18 05:54:00 | why? i'd need atleast half of them to agree with me, and seeing as they all enjoy classical music and have no grasp of reality i'd be wasting my time.... and i don't have much time to waste with my BE and allPlus, you'd run the risk of being tarred by the same brush... There is nothing more intransigent than a 'democratically elected' politician - you would really have your work cut out to change anyone's mind. Don't get me wrong - I'm 100% in favour of the one man, one vote system. It's just that I think I should be that man.... :D |
johcar (6283) | ||
| 533667 | 2007-03-18 12:46:00 | Of course, the same standards apply to politicians of all flavours - local or national!! :groan: Of course ! Men of the calibre of our politicians however are smooth bores. Not easily fired, and unpredictable as to aim.:angry I suspect if our council sued itself, they would lose :lol: :) :) |
R2x1 (4628) | ||
| 533668 | 2007-03-18 14:09:00 | Yet when I use the local libraries which are used by lots of motorists the car parking that has been provided is absolutely minimum and just nothing like adequate Tom Waitakere Library has about 10 carparks :horrified They expect you to pay for their multi-level carparking instead. |
trinsic (6945) | ||
| 533669 | 2007-03-18 21:45:00 | The waitakere council ran a vote to have a pay rise to some of their important people on board and guess what? It won! (seeing as they voted for themselves I don't see why not) Was in the Western Leader about 4 weeks back. Just a little side notice as well :) But for me its a bit sad that I moved from waitakere. No more being called westie but now hobbiton. Every one of the 85 local authorities has to make this decision, about the same time every year (between January - April). Here's how it works. The Remuneration AUthority (formerly Higher Salaries Commission) uses three factors - population, assets, expenditure - coupled with the rate of change, to determine the upper limit which each Council may spend in remunerating its elected members. This figure is relayed to the Council, and they have to determine how they will distribute it to elected members. It may pay salaries, meeting fees, or a combination of both. Once this decision is made, Council makes its "recommendation" to the Remuneration Authority, which reviews all recommendations. It may alter the recommendation, but very rarely does. If it agrees, it issues a determination, which fixes the remuneration for the coming year. In a technical sense, the Remuneration Authority determines the remuneration of councillors, mayors, etc (in that it has the power to veto the recommendation of Councils), but as it rarely does this, Council's effectively set their own salaries within the limits imposed on them. Interestingly, though, around this time (up to and including July), you'll hear various councillors/mayors declaring that they refuse their salary, and want it returned to the Council ("to reduce rates") or to a charity. Very rarely, though, do they vote against the recommendation to expend the full limit allowable. You then have a media circus when the council staff explain that once determined by the Remuneration Authority, it becomes declarable income - salaries must be paid so that tax can be paid. Very few people outside local government fully understand the system of remuneration for elected members. |
Lizard (2409) | ||
| 533670 | 2007-03-18 22:10:00 | Re the Renumeration Authority (commonly known as the Rubber Stamp). Their salaries are set at the average of the salaries they approve I presume. Not too much risk of performance, merit, value or other irrelevancies slipping into the equation there. Look at your rates demand, you will see that you got a rise too. A big one. (I have heard it whispered that if government (Local or Central) electees were paid according to their worth, the system would be self funding.) |
R2x1 (4628) | ||
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