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Thread ID: 77987	2007-03-30 00:31:00	ACC the *********s	pctek (84)	PC World Chat

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536892	2007-03-30 22:12:00	I have heard that one of the biggest problems with ACC is that their Case Officers are all given 'bonus's' when they manage to get a client off of ACC. Not saying that all case officers are abusing this situation & are claiming big bonus's - but surely this scenario does lend itself to abuse by some, consequently leaving a lot of genuine cases 'out on the street'!	fnphoto (2434)
536893	2007-03-31 07:08:00	I have heard that one of the biggest problems with ACC is that their Case Officers are all given 'bonus's' when they manage to get a client off of ACC. Not saying that all case officers are abusing this situation & are claiming big bonus's - but surely this scenario does lend itself to abuse by some, consequently leaving a lot of genuine cases 'out on the street'! There is another problem with ACC which I have personal knowledge of. If they ever send you to a specialist for a second opinion the "specialist" recieves a hefty fee from ACC when-not if- he knocks you off! They no longer use specialists but use their own tame doctors-that is if they ever get round to sending you to one. My partner was on ACC for some years due to a severe back problem. We were directed to ACC's tame specialist who examined her, told us one story i.e that she did indeed have a serious back (and) shoulder problem. The letter he sent to ACC told the exact opposite of what he told us. Oddly enough this b****r took no notes whatsoever during the examination and interview but simply doodled on a notepad throughout the whole fiasco. When I read his report I distinctly smelled a tape recorder somewhere!! Pity we did not have one ourselves. I would give this specialists name as he is very well known in his field but would probablty get pinged for it-which is something he should get! I myself have been fighting these brain dead, plonkers for 2 years over a shoulder injury. The file so far is two inches thick. I won my first claim after god knows how many months, letters and phone calls. During the period when 3 claims were lodged, three internal reviews were held and even after I had won my case through the Disputes Resolution Services ACC did not ever inform me at any point of the outcome. I had to phone them to find out the results!! They are required by law to inform you within 2 weeks as to their findings but there appears to be a bloody minded, obstructive attitude which prevails within ACC to block you or keep you completely in the dark. Personally I would like to keep this topic going as I believe ACC need a bloody good shake up from top to bottom. Even my local MP has taken a strong interest in my own case and agrees that the position I am in is a complete shambles-and that quote came from someone within ACC themselves!. I believe that everyone who has been stuffed around by ACC needs to write a letter to their MP's in the strongest language possible and demand that ACC be investigated by an outside body. For this government body to act the way they do and then have the damned cheek to post a "profit" not 2 years ago of 800 million defies belief. Scuse my rant-no I do not make any excuses whatsoever for my rant-something needs to be done and it starts with you and me! Regards Gordon.	Gordon62 (11771)
536894	2007-03-31 07:21:00	They no longer use specialists but use their own tame doctors-that is if they ever get round to sending you to one The Doc that knocked me off ACC never met me let alone examined me, Just decided that it was a condition rather then the result of an accident and I was ejected from their system. I also found out later that the Surgeons view that there was nothing to operate on was taken as meaning there was no problem, and that the fact I had stopped taking medication (pain killers that made me as stupid as a doorstop and sleeping pills that just bowled me over) had raised a big red flag on my file. Then we have the rehabilitaion course that ruined me for 2 months yet the ^&^%head involved submitted a pass (meaning I was cured) to garantee futher ACC funding. And my case manager recieved a bonus for cutting my lifeline. No freaking wonder Im an angry man, Still spend 9 ot of 10 days in various degrees of pain.	Metla (12)
536895	2007-03-31 08:12:00	To me,this is all in the same vein as the people with the bridge business and the tax collectors responsible for suicide and bankruptcy. And nobody is responsible for the pain and suffering,almost like being found guilty when YOU know that you are not.	Cicero (40)
536896	2007-03-31 08:15:00	You are dead right Metla. The brain dead ass***e who wrote me off for ACC coverage gave the exact same reason as yourself-it was a "qoute a gradual process condition, which has been rendered symptomatic (by) tha accident of the above date-unquote". Any halfwit first year law student would blow this plonker out of the water for that statement alone. I have a date next month for the review hearing and belive me I take no bloody prisoners when it comes to this sort of crap (sorry modirator!). I have a very good command of English and a fair knowledege of the law and I'm quite sure ACC will be chewing on glass when they lose their claim. I don't like to start anything that I can't finish but, if anyone wants to host or start a blogsite where we can all put our problems with ACC on the Internet for all to see I would be more than pleased to see it. Unfortunately like some of you on the forum I am also on an invalids benefit (amongst other things-like Metla and Speedy and as some may remember my medication does nothing for me thought processes at times-such as they are. I think that most of us who have had dealings with ACC would agree that they need sorting out at the highest level. Don't ask me how the blogsite or whatever should be structured I will leave that to the professionals but I truly believe we need to keep this going if only to alert not only ordinary people but the government (who in their present capacity may well have no idea whats going on-what's new you say-yeah right?). Regards Gordon.	Gordon62 (11771)
536897	2007-03-31 08:35:00	Geez. I'm beginning to think we do all need to do something. Put all this to Closeup or Fair Go or something to draw media attention to it. Seems they get away with screwing over everyone cause they are all individuals dealing with their own individual cases so no-one gets to hear about all this stuff. Well for starters I'm going to email Chris Carter for my friend.............and maybe point him to some of these stories too.	pctek (84)
536898	2007-03-31 11:22:00	My daughter was in a major car accident 3 years ago and ACC have been pretty good overall. She's currently applying for funding for an orthotic for her shoe as the surgeons have given up on trying to fix the last broken bone in her foot. Mind you, even though she was blameles in the accident, on-coming driver crossed the centre line at speed, it has still been an expensive exercise one way and another. ACC don't cover everything. And she'd just been accepted for a much higher paying job but was paid a benefit on the low one for the 6 months she was off work. Then my neighbour fell off her pushbike last year, was in a coma for 2 days and suffered a head injury. She is healing slowly. ACC had a large team working out a care plan with all sorts of amazing goodies (all needed) to help her recovery. Pity most of it didn't eventuate. The 4 hours daily care for a couple of months actually ended up as 3 hours twice in the first week only. Various other things didn't happen either.	Mercury (1316)
536899	2007-04-01 07:16:00	Geez. I'm beginning to think we do all need to do something. Put all this to Closeup or Fair Go or something to draw media attention to it. Seems they get away with screwing over everyone cause they are all individuals dealing with their own individual cases so no-one gets to hear about all this stuff. Well for starters I'm going to email Chris Carter for my friend.............and maybe point him to some of these stories too. Hi pcteck-getting hold of Fair go or Close up needs to be considered quite carefully. They may well look at individual cases which are very obviously shonky but to get them to look "in depth" at ACC needs a concerted efffort from all who have been b******d around by them and factual details forwarded to them. I'm quite sure ACC are aware of this and play on it. My own ACC file for a shoulder sprain is 2 inches thick. Can you imagine how long it would take the media to plough through this sort of morass? ACC have more money and lawyers available to them than you can shake a stick at and I'm positive that any inroads made by the media would be instantly blocked by a court order! My own MP (Labour) has taken a very keen interest in my own personal case but whether he can make a difference remains to be seen. For the record my National MP, who I sent the same report to simply sent me a pamphlet extoling the virtues of National and inviting me to join the party-jeez-and I'm no friend of either party- but!! I do not know how those of us who have been mistreated by ACC can front a concerted attack on this forum (and we probably can't) but somehow it has to be at least started. No- I'm not some sort of anarchist but a simple person like yourselves who would like to put a stop to a government body which appears to be oblivious to the role they are supposed to play and also seem to be out of the reach of their own governing body i.e. the government and ourselves. Once again I make no apologies for my rant, I expect that more than a few on this forum (or their friends) have experienced a run in with ACC at some point and come out the worse off for that experience. Regards Gordon.	Gordon62 (11771)
536900	2007-04-01 08:02:00	Oh yes, I just about died the other day when I heard about that profit of %#(^()! MILLIONS. A gov agency and they are making profits. I myself are drip feeding them monies from when I was helping my dad paint for a period of 18months. I naturally had to pay my own tax and thought all good, only to have a demand for several hundred levies for the period. I'm sorry people, but I just dont feel the extra taxes on self employed people are the best way to cover accidents at work, there should be insurance cover sorted out by employers. Sports people and the rest can get their own damn cover also. I think their is just too much in the way of taxes period in this country.	SolMiester (139)
536901	2007-04-01 21:50:00	I have also heard that these ACC "specialists" get in the region of $1500 - $2000 / consultation. Mind you, I suppose some of the consultations can last up to an hour or more!!!!	fnphoto (2434)
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