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Thread ID: 78270 2007-04-09 23:25:00 Sleepwalking into a surveillance society jermsie (6820) PC World Chat
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539557 2007-04-10 08:35:00 I have 4 CCTV cameras on the property here.

And a clear notice at the gate that warns people that by entering the property they will be recorded by a camera. Or four.

Paranoid?
Who - me?
godfather (25)
539558 2007-04-10 08:51:00 ... but it's not as effective as the tripwire and shotgun. Graham L (2)
539559 2007-04-10 10:53:00 Quoting the BBC UK:

'"What is extremely sinister however is that Labour refuses to be straight about their intentions."
There are up to 4.2m CCTV cameras in Britain - about one for every 14 people.
The UK also holds 3.6 million DNA samples - the world's biggest database.'



Oh - all it means is that they'll see you going to/from a banned religious organisation, going to/from an anti-government protest... etc. etc... then you'll just find yourself in jail. Nothing major.
Precisely
jermsie (6820)
539560 2007-04-10 11:04:00 It's not camera surveillance you should be worried about. Images and videos are not easy to process (yet) and don't reveal much useful information.

It is data surveillance you should be worried about.

I've worked in bank, telecoms and utilities data processing centres. The amount of information they record and infer about you is truly frightening. They mostly use it to determine yourt credit-worthiness - something that affects you for your whole life. Contrary to what you may hear, credit agencies and financial institutions in NZ keeps your bad credit rating for well over 7 years. Credit card and EFTPOS information can be used to track your movement around the world.

I was shocked when I went to the Auckland Uni library to pay fines a few years back. As the librarian was looking up the fines, I looked at the screen to see a list of books I have borrowed. It went to several screens.
It looked like every booked I have ever borrowed.

Unless it might get you put in prison or greatly inconvenience you, always give false information when asked.
vinref (6194)
539561 2007-04-10 14:14:00 Sorry but I would have expected a library to keep records such as that.
Just as a rental car company would keep a record of what you rented, a video rental store would keep the same records.

I see no sinister motive, it is good business sense to know what books are read and by what sector of the population. It is called stock and market management.

I always give false info on telephone polls however, as a matter of deliberate intent....
godfather (25)
539562 2007-04-11 06:23:00 I always give false info on telephone polls however, as a matter of deliberate intent....

I've been getting loads of unwanted emails from various firms - mainly financial, offering me huge loans. I got fed up deleting them so now fill them in asking for over $2 000 000 to update my mobile home. My credit rating is of course "poor" and all my particulars are wildly fictitious. At least one firm has stopped sending junk so they must have some way of knowing who replies no matter how daft the details you supply. Good fun tho.

Tom
Thomas01 (317)
539563 2007-04-11 11:11:00 Sorry but I would have expected a library to keep records such as that.
Just as a rental car company would keep a record of what you rented, a video rental store would keep the same records.

I see no sinister motive, it is good business sense to know what books are read and by what sector of the population. It is called stock and market management.

I mentioned it because the secret intelligence agency in Australia (ASIO) a few years ago used the university library records of a student to justify his physical surveillence. The books borrowed from a library can tell a lot about a persons political/religious leanings, expertise etc.
vinref (6194)
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