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| Thread ID: 96574 | 2009-01-15 05:36:00 | Section 92 - Scared? Caring? Changing habits? | Chilling_Silence (9) | Press F1 |
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| 738942 | 2009-01-20 06:22:00 | Thanks again everyone. Your support has been amazing! The other concern I have is false reports. What happens if I get accused of pirating a song that I never downloaded? What if it's a neighbour on my wifi? Yes there can be false reports based on spoofing (www.nzherald.co.nz) and the evidence isn't held up to court scrutiny. Eg, a malicious person could host an image in this thread and record all the people who access it and then spoof their IP on a popular torrent from The Pirate Bay. (disclaimer: do not do this) If your neighbour hacks into your WiFi connection and downloads copyright infringing material then you are blamed for it (so unlike your stolen car that's used in a crime you are always responsible for your WiFi). You are blamed for it even if it's a disgrunted employee trying to harm a business on their way out by illegally downloading. And we're going to post a story this week about two New Zealand businesses and how one accused the other of copyright infringement... but that's to come later. So getting 3 strikes could be quite easy (they don't need to be separate occasions, it could be a compromised computer over a weekend) and as this law presumes guilt upon accusation you would need to go to court each time to prove your innocence. |
holloway (1694) | ||
| 738943 | 2009-01-20 06:46:00 | I doubt ISPs would take action against corporate customers, they probably provide a nice income, and no doubt the company can probably weasel their way out of it. They would probably have to guess who had the best lawyers, as if they don't act quickly they can be liable for copyright infringement claims themselves (creativefreedom.org.nz). It's a no-win situation for ISPs and customers. (yes, that's how stupid this law is) |
holloway (1694) | ||
| 738944 | 2009-01-20 07:39:00 | The law doesn't even take into account of outliers, or exceptions, it seems that even the government is even disconnectable, and I suppose that could include hospitals, schools, fairfax, etc. | Netsukeninja (13296) | ||
| 738945 | 2009-01-20 09:49:00 | I imagine the ISPs don't really want to start banning their source of income, left, right and centre... All laws like this do is push illegal activities further underground where they're harder to trace. It's a lose/lose situation for all |
Agent_24 (57) | ||
| 738946 | 2009-01-20 10:49:00 | Pretty much! Thing is anybody who is semi-determined already has the tools out there on the 'net to share whatever they like pretty much anonymously ... |
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