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| Thread ID: 78578 | 2007-04-21 01:47:00 | Jigsaw Puzzle Parts.... | SurferJoe46 (51) | PC World Chat |
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| 542742 | 2007-04-21 01:47:00 | Take this piece: 911 ....and try to fit to this to complete a puzzle: :thumbs: WASHINGTON - The Senate Judiciary Committee's grilling Thursday of Attorney General Alberto Gonzales was rich in human drama but failed to resolve Congress' central questions. After thousands of pages of documents and hours of testimony from Justice Department officials, it remains unknown who in the Bush administration conceived the plan to fire eight U.S. attorneys and why. Gonzales' testimony Thursday left senators convinced he wasn't behind the plan or its execution and in fact knew far less than a department head should have about the details. Former and current members of Gonzales' staff who've been interviewed by congressional investigators also have said their roles were limited or nonexistent. Absent another explanation, the signs point to the White House and, at least in some degree, to the president's political adviser, Karl Rove. David Iglesias, the former New Mexico U.S. attorney and one of the eight fired last year, said investigating the White House's role is the logical next step - one that would follow existing clues about Rove's involvement. "If I were Congress, I would say, `If the attorney general doesn't have answers, then who would?' There's enough evidence to indicate that Karl Rove was involved up to his eyeballs." Iglesias said another clue that the White House may have been the driving force is the relative lack of Justice Department documentation for the firings in the 6,000 pages of documents turned over to Congress. "If you want to justify getting rid of someone, you should have at least some paper trail," Iglesias said. "There's been a remarkable absence of that. I'm wondering if the paper trail is at the White House." Even if Gonzales decides to step down - he says he won't despite widespread Republican disappointment with his performance - Democrats say they'll continue their probe into whether politics inappropriately influenced the firings. "The arrow points more and more to the White House," said Sen. Charles Schumer, D-N.Y. "The one thing I can assure you of: This is not over, far from it." That's why some Republicans think Gonzales should stay on the job. Sen. John Cornyn, R-Texas, told Gonzales in a telephone call Friday that the worst was probably over for him and that stepping down wouldn't necessarily help the president. In a statement he released later in the day, Cornyn said, "Democrats see an opportunity to score a lot of political points, so I don't necessarily believe that the attorney general's resignation would quell the Democrats' desire to continue with a partisan fishing expedition." Some Republicans, however, want to know more about Rove's role. Sen. Arlen Specter, R-Pa., immediate past chairman of the judiciary panel, said after Gonzales' testimony, "Those questions are going to be outstanding to the White House people. "I believe we will have an opportunity to question them," Specter predicted, but he added, "What the quality of the answers will be remains to be seen." The investigation shows that complaints about the fired U.S. attorneys came over a two-year period from grassroots Republicans who were upset with them for various reasons. Most of the complaints were rooted in partisan politics. Some concerns were ideological, such as whether a prosecutor was doing enough in going after illegal immigration or pornography. Others reacted to some U.S. attorneys' decisions not to charge Democrats with corruption prior to elections or not to prosecute Democrats for voter fraud when prosecutors said the evidence simply wasn't sufficient. Rove has acknowledged passing along complaints to the Justice Department, and a former Rove aide was chosen to replace one of the fired U.S. attorneys. E-mail traffic between Gonzales' chief of staff, who's since resigned, and a Rove deputy, reveals another connection. Another e-mail released as part of the investigation shows a Rove deputy kept Rove abreast of turns in the controversy via Rove's Republican Party e-mail account rather than Rove's White House e-mail address. The White House isn't authorizing Rove to testify publicly or to testify privately but with a transcript. And when Congress told the Republican National Committee to turn over all pertinent e-mails, the administration instructed the RNC to give the e-mails to the White House, not to Congress. That standoff appears headed to court. |
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| 542743 | 2007-04-21 03:44:00 | He said I dont recall or its not in my recollection 47 times. I mean why cant you fire this guy on the spot??? | beeswax34 (63) | ||
| 542744 | 2007-04-21 03:53:00 | He said I dont recall or its not in my recollection 47 times. I mean why cant you fire this guy on the spot??? He is probably a pretty slippery character that changes spots quicker than you can get a bead on him. |
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| 542745 | 2007-04-21 04:11:00 | That's not the way...in the old days we just had the CIA "disappear" them...but that kinda makes everyone a little nervous now. | SurferJoe46 (51) | ||
| 542746 | 2007-04-21 06:16:00 | That's not the way...in the old days we just had the CIA "disappear" them...but that kinda makes everyone a little nervous now. lol, and wiretapping and the Patriot act dont make you nervous. Bring back Nixon I say and he could make him disappear and not even lose sleep over it. Though they are both Republicans. |
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