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| Thread ID: 78584 | 2007-04-21 03:31:00 | NZ/Australia Drought? | SurferJoe46 (51) | PC World Chat |
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| 542806 | 2007-04-22 11:55:00 | The foregoing assumes that you are not a creationist. If you are then setting a realistic time line presents some serious difficulties. Billy T, SurferJoe is a Jehovah's Witness who believes that humans have only existed on the earth for a little over 6,000 years. JW's believe a modified form of Young Earth Creationism claiming that while the earth itself may be much older, humans have only been around for 6,000 years or so and the global flood of Noah's day which completely covered the entire globe occurred only about 5,000 years ago. According to JW belief, humanity migrated from the Mesopotamian region sometime after the flood when God confused their languages causing each language group to move to their own unique location on the planet. Given the total irrationality of such beliefs, logic and reason are wasted on him. |
Mackin_NZ (6958) | ||
| 542807 | 2007-04-22 15:17:00 | .........and if you listen carefully, even today you will still be able to hear Marie de Flor and Sgt. Bruce.............. dismuke.net Thank you, Terry. I enjoyed that. |
Laura (43) | ||
| 542808 | 2007-04-22 15:39:00 | Ah . . . Billy . . . I believe that your ref to I don't think every country is populated by "Eskimo-types" SJ, and it is arguable that NZ is definitely not populated by that ilk as they are of asian extraction I believe, while our population is predominantly polynesian and european sourced . To be scrupulously fair though, there is strong genetic evidence emerging to suggest that the polynesian races originated in China so you never can be quite sure . Anything is possible! . . actually indicates that the original persons in NZ are indeed "Eskimo types" in that the pre-Deluvian Aleut bridge proffered a way for the Orientals to enter into many lands, North and South American continents included . DNA-wise, this has been proven by blood comparison tests of current inhabitants of South American natives to the blood of Russo-Sino persons . European inbreeding was a much later factor and actually only serves to confuse bloodlines a scant amount by this time . I place my opinion on the typically "beardless" or minimally bearded races who populate the American Indian, Aleut, Peruvian/Inca/Mazatlan-types, the Polynesians, Guamanians, Samoan cultures and the Pacific rim peoples . It's just my theory, but if you look at it like that (the beard vs no beard), then these people all appear to have a commonality in manifestation of that trait . I used "Eskimo-types" as a genotypical indicator of that Sino-European infusion, not as a denigration of that or any race . Just a thought . . . . |
SurferJoe46 (51) | ||
| 542809 | 2007-04-23 00:04:00 | New Zealand is predominantly Caucasian - specifically of English descent . That is where most of our colonists came from . To be more precise, Scotland and Ireland in the mid-1800s . The Maori settlement preceded Europeans by about 600 years and they were decimated - as were the Inca and Native Americans - by measles, small pox etc etc . Today we also have many Pacific Island people (Samoa, Fiji, Cook Islands) and Auckland has the largest Pacific Island community anywhere in the world . Apart from the above three ethnic groups, there is a strong Chinese population dating from the gold-miners of the 19th century . Today there are many Asian and Indian people from various countries who have moved to NZ for education, work, family, refugees (Vietnam post '73) . Finally there is a sprinkling of Africans (including quite a lot of economic refugees from South Afric and Zimbabwe) as well as Eastern Europeans . In other words, the modern day NZ population looks much like your population with one significant exception - we have very few Hispanic people . |
Winston001 (3612) | ||
| 542810 | 2007-04-23 02:36:00 | Just to elucidate on the NZ climate as opposed to Australia: Joe, much of New Zealand has a climate and topography like Oregon and Washington . Wet lush west coast with drier areas to the east . Similar temperature range too although milder in NZ . Australia is more like the San Joachim Valley and Mojave . Good soils but needs water of which there isn't any to spare . Geologically the two countries are very different . Australia has some of the oldest rocks on the planet, there is no volcanic activity and earthquakes are something they can only read about . Much of Australia is dry plains covered with drought tolerant eucalypts and scrubby bush . We regard it as desert, a bit like northern Mexico . We laugh at what they call mountains because they are just hills, rounded and eroded by hundreds of millions of years of weather . New Zealand by comparison is a geologic pup, a very new country . Thus our landscape has spectacular alpine mountains, lakes, fast shingle rivers, and fertile plains near the sea . A lot like British Columbia/Colorado/Idaho . As if that wasn't enough, we have active volcanos and every school child understands the Richter scale . :D The mountains are covered with "bush" up to about 4600 ft (snowline) . The bush is native plants and trees (podocarp) which have cousins in Chile, and is quite dense . Walking through bush off a track can be difficult . The bush is a moist and generally dark green environment - has a wonderful smell . The prevailing winds are southwest from the Southern Ocean and bring lots of rain . The only similar place in Australia is Tasmania which is at the same latitude as the South Island . |
Winston001 (3612) | ||
| 542811 | 2007-04-23 03:01:00 | Very poetic and descriptive . Thanks for all the detail . . I shall try to not forget it . I'll just place your climate in the seaboard side of Northern part of California for a quick mental image . |
SurferJoe46 (51) | ||
| 542812 | 2007-04-23 04:41:00 | Billy T, SurferJoe is a Jehovah's Witness who believes that humans have only existed on the earth for a little over 6,000 years . Hey, whatever winds his watch is OK with me, and I don't think religious preferences necessarily preclude logic and reason . . . . in other matters . . . . all I ask is that nobody try to inflict their special and exclusive form of idol worship on me . I am the original kiwi bush-baptist, I'm solidly behind evolution (though it sure works slow in some societies) and the concept of hellfire and damnation for all eternity just for backing the wrong team seems to me to be totally contrary to the concept and preachings of a merciful deity . Eternal life exists through genetics and DNA (and will continue until the whole damned planet implodes) because we are all descended from survivors and that line goes back to the beginning of time, wherever any particular group likes to peg that . We are all the descendants of those who did not die young, i . e . from an unbroken lineage of survivors, or at least, those who managed to get their end away before they died . Those who voluntarily take themselves out of the gene pool through spectacular acts of stupidity add credence to Darwin and do us all a huge favour . Cheers Billy 8-{) (Gospel according to) |
Billy T (70) | ||
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