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Thread ID: 78620 2007-04-22 10:41:00 max length for phone cables heni72847 (1166) PC World Chat
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543358 2007-04-23 10:22:00 Dont know if it helps, but Im running a 22 foot cable, i have three inputs but for some reason i am gettin a better connection form the cable. Dont ask why, I tried straight to the input and did speed tests the did some with the cable and found better rersults. Like I said dont ask why but I aint complaining.:confused: rob_on_guitar (4196)
543359 2007-04-23 16:12:00 so it's better to have a long cat5 cable rather than a long telephone cable is that right?

or if I want the adsl router near me could I rewire the phone plug.. like make a adapter or something and let phone and adsl signal travel through a cat5 cable instead of a normal telephone cable so it can still reach me far away without loosing too much signal? just a thought..

hope that makes sense..

Well..it Does make sense..sortta...

I feel the quality of Cat5e or even Cat6 is 'way better than twisted pairs..so YEAH!

I forget for sure which Cat is the better shielded though.

Just remember that every solder joint or connection is a signal killer and makes the extra quality of cat cables less and less meaningful.
SurferJoe46 (51)
543360 2007-04-24 01:18:00 Long ethernet runs are also better than long phone extension runs, especially if your house has shoddy wiring. Ethernet being a digital standard, there is no data loss - whereas the phone wiring carries an analogue signal, and is much more prone to interference. If you must use a phone extension, use cat3 or better twisted pair cabling - it will do a far better job than the flat 'ribbon-type' extension cables.

SurferJoe: The cat standards aren't a measure of shielding, they refer to the characteristics of the wiring and the number of twists/inch. UTP/STP are the TLAs used to refer to unshielded / shielded twisted-pair cable.

Cat5e and Cat6 are twisted-pair cables.
Erayd (23)
543361 2007-04-24 02:58:00 The common "extension" cable for phones is what Joe would call "silver satin", (but the usual stuff in NZ is cream coloured) with four or six (less often found with 8) parallel wires. Its only merit is that it's easy and quick to fit plugs onto it. :D It's not twisted pair. It's fine for the (audio) phone. Since you want to put the ADSL RF through your cable it will be best to use twisted pair. One pair of a CAT5 or CAT6 would be fine, but make sure you are using a pair, not just any two randomly chosen wires in the cable. ;) Graham L (2)
543362 2007-04-24 07:18:00 SurferJoe: The cat standards aren't a measure of shielding, they refer to the characteristics of the wiring and the number of twists/inch. UTP/STP are the TLAs used to refer to unshielded / shielded twisted-pair cable.

Cat5e and Cat6 are twisted-pair cables.

I knew it wasn't quite like I envisioned it...but I thought the diff from cat5 to 6 was a different style of shielding...

In cat5 as I guess I probably misunderstood it, the individual pairs were shielded and run to a drain wire.
In cat6, I thought ALL the twisted pairs were collectively shielded and ran to a common drain wire.

Not so?
SurferJoe46 (51)
543363 2007-04-24 07:35:00 It is about 30 feet long as I can see it and there it terminates in a splitter (Verizon supplied) where it then becomes 2-pair of copper and then another 850 feet to my D-slam .



What's a "D-slam" Joe?

Sounds VERY cool and maybe I can find a "need" for one! :D

AB
allblack (6574)
543364 2007-04-24 07:53:00 DSLAM:
Digital Subscriber Line Access Multiplexer

The device (for NZ'ers on ADSL) that resides in the telephone exchange.
godfather (25)
543365 2007-04-24 07:56:00 Cheers Goddie.

Juuuust doesn't quite sound so cool when you put it like that! :D :D

Maybe I save me time and try to suss out this whole Avatar thing....

T
allblack (6574)
543366 2007-04-24 23:13:00 I knew it wasn't quite like I envisioned it . . . but I thought the diff from cat5 to 6 was a different style of shielding . . .

In cat5 as I guess I probably misunderstood it, the individual pairs were shielded and run to a drain wire .
In cat6, I thought ALL the twisted pairs were collectively shielded and ran to a common drain wire .

Not so?You're probably thinking of STP cable . UTP cable doesn't have a 'drain wire' . Cat5 STP and Cat6 STP may have differing styles of shielding though - I haven't had much experience with the STP varieties, as for most people UTP is fine - and it's a lot cheaper . UTP has no shielding at all . :D
Erayd (23)
543367 2007-04-25 01:42:00 You could almost say "Shielded Twisted Pair(s)" or "Unshielded Twisted Pair(s)", but that is too easy to say, and too hard to type.
;)
R2x1 (4628)
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