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| Thread ID: 150595 | 2022-04-14 06:14:00 | From the Taxpayers Union | kenj (9738) | PC World Chat |
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| 1485517 | 2022-04-14 06:14:00 | What do you think of this my friends? The Government has voted for a law change that will end one person one vote democracy in local government, and we have less than a week to have our say on this massive and undemocratic change. Tamati Coffey's Rotorua District Council (Representation Arrangements) Bill overrides the current Local Electoral Act to mandate that the 22,000 voters on the Māori Roll in Rotorua have the same number of Ward Councillors as the 56,000 voters on the General Roll. This means that the vote of someone on the General Roll in Rotorua will be worth only 58% of the vote of someone on the Māori Roll. The current law specifies that the number of Māori constituency members should reflect the respective share of the population of those on the Māori roll to the overall roll. But this law change will stop that. 28% of Rotorua residents get 50% of the ward seats and the other 72% only get half the say. At the Taxpayers’ Union we believe in democracy. It is essential for residents and ratepayers to be able to sack Councils and hold them accountable when they go off the rails, and one person one vote is an essential part of that. Ken ;) |
kenj (9738) | ||
| 1485518 | 2022-04-14 07:02:00 | What do you think of this my friends? The Government has voted for a law change that will end one person one vote democracy in local government, and we have less than a week to have our say on this massive and undemocratic change. Tamati Coffey's Rotorua District Council (Representation Arrangements) Bill overrides the current Local Electoral Act to mandate that the 22,000 voters on the Māori Roll in Rotorua have the same number of Ward Councillors as the 56,000 voters on the General Roll. This means that the vote of someone on the General Roll in Rotorua will be worth only 58% of the vote of someone on the Māori Roll. The current law specifies that the number of Māori constituency members should reflect the respective share of the population of those on the Māori roll to the overall roll. But this law change will stop that. 28% of Rotorua residents get 50% of the ward seats and the other 72% only get half the say. At the Taxpayers’ Union we believe in democracy. It is essential for residents and ratepayers to be able to sack Councils and hold them accountable when they go off the rails, and one person one vote is an essential part of that. Ken ;) 11298 |
B.M. (505) | ||
| 1485519 | 2022-04-14 10:32:00 | Councils...do most people even vote in council elections? | piroska (17583) | ||
| 1485520 | 2022-04-15 00:17:00 | If I espoused my views on this Jen will ban my ass again. | prefect (6291) | ||
| 1485521 | 2022-04-15 01:31:00 | Possibly will with mine as well. However, not taking this as a racist thing, democracy is based on a principle of One man. One vote. The article is about the abuse of that principle! I would feel just the same were it the opposite and Maori were getting the short end of the stick! Ken |
kenj (9738) | ||
| 1485522 | 2022-04-15 02:00:00 | no regulator should ever be regulating based on race, any race. as simple as that. i can understand the want for Māori to have representation equivalent to their % of population. but there is better ways to do it than that. its also a slippery slope. if we do thing for one race we should be doing it for all. ie every Asian race should have its representation, and every other race in the world that we have here. that gets messy fast and it becomes regulation based on race, which is plain old racist which is what we do not want. one of the problems with representation is money wins. those without money tend not to vote and those candidates that get backed by big money tend to get a big advantage. so really we need to be putting more effort into getting equal voting across all income brackets. |
tweak'e (69) | ||
| 1485523 | 2022-04-15 04:34:00 | Colour, Class, or Creed have no part to play in a Democracy, so you can’t have it both ways! :groan: | B.M. (505) | ||
| 1485524 | 2022-04-16 07:53:00 | no regulator should ever be regulating based on race, any race. as simple as that. i can understand the want for Māori to have representation equivalent to their % of population. but there is better ways to do it than that. its also a slippery slope. if we do thing for one race we should be doing it for all. ie every Asian race should have its representation, and every other race in the world that we have here. that gets messy fast and it becomes regulation based on race, which is plain old racist which is what we do not want. one of the problems with representation is money wins. those without money tend not to vote and those candidates that get backed by big money tend to get a big advantage. so really we need to be putting more effort into getting equal voting across all income brackets. Quite right, and equal brains shouldn't mean equal votes, or there'd be 120 more unemployed on Lambton Quay come Tuesday. ;) |
R2x1 (4628) | ||
| 1485525 | 2022-04-16 07:55:00 | Possibly will with mine as well . However, not taking this as a racist thing, democracy is based on a principle of One man . One vote . The article is about the abuse of that principle! I would feel just the same were it the opposite and Maori were getting the short end of the stick! Ken . . . one person one vote . . . . |
R2x1 (4628) | ||
| 1485526 | 2022-04-16 08:14:00 | Oops, sorry girls. Ken :) :) |
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