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Thread ID: 96909 2009-01-28 12:50:00 6GB memory on Vista Ultimate 32bit? acheron4778 (12609) Press F1
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742792 2009-01-28 20:33:00 I'm running 64bit on a machine built to game, 8gb ram 2x260GTX's in SLI etc etc, I actually find Vista64 damn good to game on nowdays, driver support is good. Medal of Honor:airborne wouldnt install, had to install on XP machine and copy folder over, ran fine. thats about the only prob i've ever had. kersonan (13264)
742793 2009-01-28 23:50:00 I just reinstalled all my hardware under Vista Ultimate 64 bit. I had been dual booting WinXP32 and Vista 64.

I have only just got around to reinstalling my Logitech force feedback joystick and an older HP 7260 printer. Both of these worked under Windows 7 64 bit too.

Fired up MS FlightSim 2004 with no problems.

My opinion is to go to a 64 bit O/S if you want to install 6 Gig RAM.

There are some programs I had that do not work under my O/S but I found alternative applications that do the same job.

I believe my next O/S will be a 64 bit Win7.

Please note I am not a gamer in the accepted sense of the word.
Sweep (90)
742794 2009-01-28 23:56:00 I have Vista and 7 64-bit. I haven't had any problems with it - but make sure you have drivers for every device.

I dual-boot with Windows XP 32 bit, in case a program doesn't work properly on 64 bit.

You have three operating systems. Do you use all three? If so you triple boot I guess.

Removable hard drives in trays are great but may break a raid array etc.

Just to clarify what you are doing.
Sweep (90)
742795 2009-01-29 00:48:00 You have three operating systems. Do you use all three? If so you triple boot I guess.

Removable hard drives in trays are great but may break a raid array etc.

Just to clarify what you are doing.

I have a dual-boot with XP and Vista (permanently).

I have 7 installed on a second HD, with it's own bootloader. To boot from it, I set it as the primary HD in the BIOS and hey presto!

I do this so i can fiddle around with 7's disk/bootloader as much as I want without touching (and possibly screwing up) my XP/Vista setup.
jwil1 (65)
742796 2009-01-29 01:40:00 go for 64 bit

the horror stoies have been told to get lost and things are pretty good on the dark side

im running vista 64bit and everything runs sweet and since you will be going to a Core i7 then there will most certainly be 64 bit drivers for new kit as people are starting to move to 64bit in mobs now it seems

think of 64 bit as exactly the same as 32bit but with the ability to use more ram and run a little bit faster as thats all the end user really sees :thumbs:
MAC_H8ER (5897)
742797 2009-01-29 01:56:00 I have a dual-boot with XP and Vista (permanently).

I have 7 installed on a second HD, with it's own bootloader. To boot from it, I set it as the primary HD in the BIOS and hey presto!

I do this so i can fiddle around with 7's disk/bootloader as much as I want without touching (and possibly screwing up) my XP/Vista setup.

Now understood. Thanks for that.
Sweep (90)
742798 2009-01-29 04:50:00 To answer the 3 . 5GB limit question . . . . . .

Remember that in the absence of the 64 bit support, the Windows memory manager is limited to a 4GB physical address space . Most of that address space is filled with RAM, but not all of it . Memory-mapped devices (such as your video card) will use some of that physical address space, as will the BIOS ROMs . After all the non-memory devices have had their say, there will be less than 4GB of address space available for RAM below the 4GB physical address boundary .

the motherboard assigned the ROMs and the hardware devices to the physical address space between 3 . 5GB and 4GB (occupying about 0 . 5GB of address space) . When you start plugging in your memory chips, then, they are assigned physical addresses starting at the bottom, and then skip over the address space that has already been assigned to the hardware and ROM, then resume .

On this imaginary system, then, the 0 . 5GB of address space used for hardware and ROMs causes that much memory to get shoved upwards, and it ends up above the 4GB boundary . Without 64 bit support, the processor is capable only of addressing memory below the 4GB boundary, which means that the memory above that boundary is inaccessible . It's consuming electricity but isn't doing anything .

The solution is to go to 64-bit OS so that the processor can access the physical address space above the 4GB boundary .

So why don't we just map the ROMs and the hardware devices to space above 4GB??
then the CPU can't access the IO devices so you have system with 4GB of RAM and no video card . . . . . .



any questions??




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robsonde (120)
742799 2009-01-29 04:55:00 Vista 64 will run like a dream with 6gb and an i7....getting Vista 32 would be a stupid idea...

Just my 2 cents

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Blam (54)
742800 2009-01-29 09:42:00 Much appreciated, thanks guys.

I shall go forth into the unknown confidently.
acheron4778 (12609)
742801 2009-01-29 19:56:00 Can someone please sticky a thread on the difference/myths behind 32/64bit OS's?

This question comes up so often it's silly.
Thebananamonkey (7741)
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