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Thread ID: 79519	2007-05-22 12:52:00	compulsory 3rd party insurance	motorbyclist (188)	PC World Chat

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552139	2007-05-23 00:24:00	Hi Joe. We run a different set of rules, particularly relating to injury, loss of wages, etc. It can be a difficult for people from overseas to grasp. Hi Scouse..........Not being funny.....But........It is sometimes difficult for us Kiwi's to understand the ACC as well!!!!!! PJ:angry :angry	Poppa John (284)
552140	2007-05-23 01:17:00	I get really sick of people saying this. Sure, there are a lot of parents who couldn't care less what their offspring get up to but there are also plenty who do but are helpless when it comes to "controlling" their children's activities. And are parents still responsible for the 18 and 19-year-olds who have left home and therefore independent? I don't think so. :groan: Don't give me that victim whine :) If your kid buys a $10,000 car for nothing down and you can't do anything to stop it then you have bigger problems that that. If your kid seems to go through unusual amounts of tyres, spends unusual amounts on booze, hangs out with others doing similar, then how can you claim ignorance or unable to reign him in? The parents of the kid who died in Tauranga seemed, in the interview on the news, to have encouraged his car obsessions. The "yes we will change" weepie by other friends of the kid who said they would never be boy racers again was dismissed in the next item that talked about the boy racers doing a 'driveby' in their cars. Nothing will change while everyone denies responsability and point to others as having to change. Just another sign of our gutless society. If your kid is still living at home then you still have some rights and a hell of a lot of responsability. As it is, its a darwinian solution that seems to work best at present. Pity the innocent are killed just as much as the guilty.	netchicken (4843)
552141	2007-05-23 01:49:00	I think the only way that might control this is to restrict licences, as is done with motor cycle licences, to cc ratings over a probationary period of time. Can't see that working. A souped-up Honda Integra, worth $24000.00 with 350HP doing 80 kmh hits my 8 y/o daughter walking along the footpath. She's dead. A 1.3 Toyota Starlet, worth $700.00 with 62HP doing 80 kmh hits my 8 y/o daughter walking down the footpath. She's dead. And so is the driver of the car 30secs after I turn up at the scene. Nope. Something else needs to happen.	allblack (6574)
552142	2007-05-23 02:03:00	Can't see that working. A souped-up Honda Integra, worth $24000.00 with 350HP doing 80 kmh hits my 8 y/o daughter walking along the footpath. She's dead. A 1.3 Toyota Starlet, worth $700.00 with 62HP doing 80 kmh hits my 8 y/o daughter walking down the footpath. She's dead. And so is the driver of the car 30secs after I turn up at the scene. Nope. Something else needs to happen. No, it is more about destroying the 'boy racer ' culture. I am wondering before the onset of cheap Jap imports and cheap cars, was this such a problem, because this has made cars avaliable to anyone, even a kid with no money. Maybe the answer is to put huge carbon taxes on Car purchases, which will put the price up, making cars un affordable for people without a full time wage. This is something the government may do anyway to reduce our carbon footprint. Maybe indroducing laws preventing kids buyng cars on a 'dollar down' deposit would also help.	robbyp (2751)
552143	2007-05-23 02:37:00	Stopping the finance companies from using anything other than the car as security might slow the loans down to a trickle.	PaulD (232)
552144	2007-05-23 02:42:00	Forgive a tired old memory. But didn't we HAVE 3rd party Insurance some years ago? Wasn't it the Insurance Companies that stopped it? Too unprofitable? PJ	Poppa John (284)
552145	2007-05-23 02:58:00	Forget everything else ... just do this to cars having a first offence www.youtube.com .. reminds me of cutting the heads of cockroaches...	netchicken (4843)
552146	2007-05-23 03:10:00	No, it is more about destroying the 'boy racer ' culture . I am wondering before the onset of cheap Jap imports and cheap cars, was this such a problem, because this has made cars avaliable to anyone, even a kid with no money . Fair comment . Didn't consider that angle . When I got my licence at 15, I did my best to look "cool" in a Triumph Toledo, followed swiftly by a Hillman Grunter . Fortunately, it wasn't too difficult because the "competition" weren't much better off! :lol: Change the image, change the culture? Not a bad angle . . . .	allblack (6574)
552147	2007-05-23 03:40:00	Woohoo! I was worse, learned to drive in a morrie 1000 and did handbrake skids on dirt roads. I had a hillman hunter on cng, judged by one mechanic to be the slowest car he had ever driven - but it only cost $4 per week to run.	netchicken (4843)
552148	2007-05-23 03:51:00	Perhaps the following might cause a decline in the boy racer antics: A conviction and fine, as at present, carries loss of licence until the fine is paid in full. Car is confiscated until owner has a valid licence. Driving without a licence automatically extends the period of disqualification. Car dealers/home sellers may not sell a car to an unlicensed driver. Can be added to rego papers. Compulsory third party insurance covers an individual rather than a vehicle. No licence means no third party insurance. Under 21 and wish to buy a car? 75% cash deposit as a minumum.	leonidas5 (2306)
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