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| 745855 | 2009-02-07 21:34:00 | Is anybody conversant with a programme HDD Regenerator V1 . 51 by Bmitiry Primochenko? Ok, I realise it’s supposed to fix bad sectors in a HDD but what exactly does it do? Like, does it somehow adjust Bad Sectors or just mark them bad and invisible or???? . I’m told that even a new HDD is not perfect, so the manufactures invisibly mark the bad spots . I guess as long as there are enough good sectors who knows or cares . But, more importantly: Does this programme work? |
B.M. (505) | ||
| 745856 | 2009-02-08 00:16:00 | Im not entirely sure, but read a little here about what a bad sector is: en.wikipedia.org My general understanding was if a disc had bad sectors, then S.M.A.R.T would eventually go off and warn you to backup your data then bin the HDD |
Chilling_Silence (9) | ||
| 745857 | 2009-02-08 04:36:00 | I use HDD Regenerator to mainly check out a drive . It says it repairs the drive, but my theory is once a drive starts to fail it wont stop - recover or back up what data you can, then bin the drive, as sooner or later the drive will fail . |
wainuitech (129) | ||
| 745858 | 2009-02-08 06:31:00 | It’s become an interesting subject because since posting here this morning I’ve crashed around the Internet and found some most interesting articles. One such article suggests that a lot of the time perfectly good drives are biffed out needlessly. An example is that if the power is cut to the computer whilst the HDD is writing you can easily wind up with a bad sector because the write to that sector isn’t finalised. Such a sector can be easily recovered using the correct programme. Or so the writer claimed. Now I know of a chap who used his computer to check only one particular website and he simply turned his computer on and off at the wall. Ok, he’s 70+ and didn’t know any different. As you can imagine, his system was a shambles. Anyway, I’ve got an experiment underway with a supposedly stuffed drive so I’ll let you know. ;) |
B.M. (505) | ||
| 745859 | 2009-02-08 07:34:00 | An example is that if the power is cut to the computer whilst the HDD is writing you can easily wind up with a bad sector because the write to that sector isn’t finalised. Someone did this yesterday, when I was fixing 1 laptop, while I was updating another laptop. I connected the stuffed hdd to this (it wouldnt boot, the hdd on it was a SATA). The screen (that checks for errors came up), and found some errors and fixed them. I took the hdd off this, put it back in the laptop, rebooted it, it was fine booted into windows While I was updating the other laptop, I told the daughter to connect it to the power, (the one that had the stuffed hdd), since the battery was going flat. Whats she do, she pulls the plug out (of the wall), while I was updating the other laptop (it was already connected) to power Thats probably how the stuffed hdd stuffed up in the first place |
Speedy Gonzales (78) | ||
| 745860 | 2009-02-08 07:49:00 | One such article suggests that a lot of the time perfectly good drives are biffed out needlessly That is true - Didn't feel like writing more before - If I have a customers Drive and I run HDD Regen through it and it find 1 or 2 , I advice the customer of whats was found, some say dont worry and will take the chance it wont fail (and it doesn't) - Others say replace the drive . If the drive had MANY bad sectors thats usually a good indication of a pending failure - one of my own Workshop/Play PC's I had a suspect drive in, just for mucking about, ran HDD Reg - found several , HDD regen was meant to fix it - about 1-2 Months later RASSSPPPPP the drive ended up in the Bin . Quoted from Chills Link - A bad sector is a sector on a computer's disk drive that cannot be used due to permanent damage, such as physical damage to the disk particles . In that case had it have been a customers Drive - they wouldn't have been to happy . An example is that if the power is cut to the computer whilst the HDD is writing you can easily wind up with a bad sector because the write to that sector isn’t finalised . Such a sector can be easily recovered using the correct programme . That example would sound more like corrupted Data, since the data hadn't finished writing . BTW - Bad Sectors on a Drive is covered under a warranty as well, if A drive shows bad sectors its usually replaced . |
wainuitech (129) | ||
| 745861 | 2009-02-08 20:58:00 | Fascinating stuff this . Does anybody know of a programme to reset the Bad Sector Table and retest the sector again? An interesting point I found in my Internet research was that most Cloning Programmes transfer the data bit for bit so when you install a nice new HDD you get the old Bad Sector Table as a bonus . :( Therefore your new drive starts with a list of bad sectors before it adds a few of its own . :) Now, I read where one way around this is to change the sizes of the partitions on the new drive, which apparently fools the Cloning Programme into thinking the Bad Sector Tables are redundant and resets them . Hmmm, a hell of a messy the way I see it . :( I also note that chkdsk /b used to reset and retest the sector to confirm if it was still faulty, but apparently doesn’t anymore . Anyone confirm or deny this? Just as well the subject interests me or this Laptop would be sent packing . :D |
B.M. (505) | ||
| 745862 | 2009-02-08 21:22:00 | Several of the cloning programs I use, actually stop at a bad sector and ask if they should continue - Why you may ask - Well its like a jig saw puzzle with a piece missing- with the bad sector having the missing data. | wainuitech (129) | ||
| 745863 | 2009-02-08 21:30:00 | OK, so where does that leave you WT? Does that mean you can't continue and can't clone the drive? |
B.M. (505) | ||
| 745864 | 2009-02-08 22:18:00 | Some drives will carry on and clone - others spit the dummy and stop . IF a drive has bad sectors, generally I would do a complete install any way - simply because you don't know what sections of data are missing, it could be something minor and never ever be used, could be an important section of the OS or a program thats missing, hence it wont run correctly, or it could be a section of data from a file, Eg: photo, Document . From what I gather - (and this is going back a fair while from memory) IF windows detects a sector is starting to fail it tries to move that data to another section on the drive, before it loses it . More often than not though it doesn't - thats why sometimes if a sector(s) fail at the beginning of the drive, the OS wont boot correctly or at all - because important data in how the OS is told to boot/Load is missing . Thats why by doing a repair install, it replaces any damaged or missing sections of the OS data . Mind you, a damaged start up can also be caused by many other factors, Viruses, spyware, corrupted OS / Drivers etc . |
wainuitech (129) | ||
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