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Thread ID: 79969	2007-06-07 07:50:00	Electronicitian Type Query	Lovelee (6586)	PC World Chat

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556992	2007-06-07 07:50:00	Hello Fellas, Good Evening, the weekends just a day away! :p Over the last few weeks we have had some odd electronical developments . They have just become clear today after the SKY technician had to come out . And Im kinda hoping there will be an answer so everything will run smoothly . Our SKY had been pixelating, the lady on the ph asked if we had a portable phone . We do . The tech arrived and demostrated how the portable was interferring with the SKY box . He gave us a box by a different manufacturer and the pixelating stopped . We have had wifi in the house for about 2 . 5 months . We had an electronic weather station about 1 . 5m from the wifi . The figures kept dropping off the station, so we shifted it to the other side of the house and its doing OK . (it was better for it to be beside where we sit, we are weather nuts, live in an area where the weather is important ~ and its a real p-off having it across the room) The wifi . Since weve had it, it isnt very stable . Sometimes though it will remain connected to the satellite for hours, some times it will drop off after a couple of minutes . Yesterday the wifi box would only stay online if it was in the middle of the lounge floor . Today, we have had no issues at all . Our phone . We have a base in the lounge and a portable in the bedroom . :) We dont use the phone very often, so we havent been aware that yesterday the phones in our village were playing up, today, our village has no phone service at all . Yesterday our wifi was playing up, today our wifi has been like a well mannered lad! The wifi will not send the signal to the bedroom, if its taken into the room connected its OK till you are right in the room and it goes . Since the SKY guy demonstrated that the portable was causing interference with SKY we have taken the lappy to the bedroom, turned phone off, but still cannot connect . I have spoken to the supplier of the wifi, he is suggesting, and has given us the instructions, that we change the channel from 1 to 6 on the wifi . My question is: are all these things conflicting or am I imagining it? Can I change frequencies or something on these things so there is no conflict? What about the microwave oven, its an old one . Does it also interfere? :help:	Lovelee (6586)
556993	2007-06-07 08:01:00	I know microwaves and wireless phones don't like each other...and that's one reason why I minimize the interference possibilities with using hard-wired peripherals in my computer areas. Maybe you have some metallic shielding in the walls..accidentally, of course..like chicken wire for the plaster or if youse guys use stucco...etc. We have an ELF US Government antenna in our town and I think it makes you sterile (hooray!) and also causes cataracts..but nobody listens to me. I want to see the final answer to this problem and will read all the help and answers......but in the meantime, I suggest getting yourself fitted for an aluminum foil hat and perhaps some foil undergarments too. It might be aliens..not, not Mexicans..but the ones in space ships. Hey MODS: Put another carrot on the donkey wheel..this took 4 attempts to post!	SurferJoe46 (51)
556994	2007-06-07 08:08:00	The microwave oven is the most powerful RF transmitter in your house . It produces hundreds of watts at 2 . 450 GHz . But not much should get out: it's supposed to cook the contents of the oven, not you . And Wifi doesn't seem to be bothered by it . Most of those weather stations use about 433 MHz . I'm not sure what you mean by "wifi" . :( Have you a satellite Internet connection, connected through WiFi ("b" or "g"?) ? What frequency does the corless phone use? (The more modern ones boast about the frequency) :D .	Graham L (2)
556995	2007-06-07 08:16:00	The microwave oven is the most powerful RF transmitter in your house . It produces hundreds of watts at 2 . 450 GHz . But not much should get out: it's supposed to cook the contents of the oven, not you . And Wifi doesn't seem to be bothered by it . Most of those weather stations use about 433 MHz . I'm not sure what you mean by "wifi" . :( Have you a satellite Internet connection, connected through WiFi ("b" or "g"?) ? What frequency does the corless phone use? (The more modern ones boast about the frequency) :D . How interesting that you say the microwave produces at 2 . 450GHz . Thats exactly what the SKY guy said the phone and the original SKY box were at!! What do you mean ("b" or "g") . . we are connected to internet via satellite, and have wifi box so we can have both lappys online at the same time . We live quite rural, with little attention from any company providing communications . So the village is kicking telecom in the a$$ slowly and taking up other offers . SurferJoe . . Im picking its you who needs to dangle more carrots out, I doubt anyone else is having trouble posting . Maybe its that your alfoil is a bit crinkled, better get the iron out . ;)	Lovelee (6586)
556996	2007-06-07 08:36:00	The WiFi "b" version uses frequencies around 2 . 4 GHz; "g" uses something like 5 GHz . If they claim "54 mbps" or "108 mbps" it's "g" . But it's likely to be "b" . It might be that you have a phone, WiFi, and the microwave all using similar frequencies . It's even possible that the weather station could use the same sort of frequency (that range is "ISM" which allows use without a licence, but with no guarantees of non-interference . ) ;) I'm amazed that a Sky system would use 2 . 450 GHz . Microwave ovens use that spot frequency all over the world . The microwave isn't really a problem How often is it in use? When it's not cooking there's no output . The phone might have changeable channels . You've been told how to change the channel on the WiFi . If you have foil in the walls (some Gib board) that might be stopping the Wifi reach the bedroom .	Graham L (2)
556997	2007-06-07 08:57:00	Three things: Firstly, the microwave oven won't affect anything unless you are using it at the time of the interference AND the door seal areas are rusty and/or very dirty, or the hinges are loose . If you suspect it, dump it as it will cost more to fix than it will to replace . Secondly, how old is your house and if older than 25 years, has it been renovated in recent times? That will sort out whether you have foil backed gib or not . Thirdly, if you have too many wireless devices on 2 . 4GHz they will potentially interfere with each other . For example if you have 2 . 4GHz phones you may need to change to 5GHz if they are the problem . Start by turning everything off then start with one device at a time, establish correct operation then add devices until things go wrong . Incidentally, how does your wi fi get satellite if you can move it around the room? Surely it must be connected to an external dish? If not, I hope you don't have an iron roof as that will pretty much kill it . Cheers Billy 8-{)	Billy T (70)
556998	2007-06-07 09:01:00	hmmm .. HE who pays the bills, says the house was made maybe 30 yrs ago and he thinks theres only paper backing on the walls, not alfoil, the only chicken wire is in the roof. I will change the channel for the wifi tomorrow morning and see what happens. The wifi has just disconnected, as Im typing, and nothing has been moved or anything grrrrrrrrr	Lovelee (6586)
556999	2007-06-07 09:06:00	Incidentally, how does your wi fi get satellite if you can move it around the room? Surely it must be connected to an external dish? If not, I hope you don't have an iron roof as that will pretty much kill it . The satellite dish is on an iron roof, connected to the router box in the lounge, the wifi is connected to the router . Is that right? Anything else . Ohh microwave isnt used much at all . Why the heck does it just drop off, dialup used to do that, I assumed this would be connected unless we have a bad storm .	Lovelee (6586)
557000	2007-06-07 09:07:00	Good evening Billy, want an apostrophe ' :P	Lovelee (6586)
557001	2007-06-07 09:09:00	The WiFi "b" version uses frequencies around 2 . 4 GHz; "g" uses something like 5 GHz . If they claim "54 mbps" or "108 mbps" it's "g" . But it's likely to be "b" . . Grahm: 'a' is in the 5 GHz range, and theoretically maxes out at 54Mb/s 'b' is in 2 . 4 GHz range and theoretically maxes out at (from memory) around 11Mb/s 'g' is also in the 2 . 4 GHz range and theoretically maxes out at 54Mb/s The most common in use now (for home use) is 802 . 11g You will rarely find a wifi network using 'a' (at least I haven't) 'g' is backwards compatible with 'b', but will go at the slower speed of 'b' . I hope that helps . Lovelee: I've found that cordless phones in the 2 . 4GHz range and wifi do not get along together all that well .	Sherman (9181)
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