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Thread ID: 79821	2007-06-02 02:59:00	How Would A NZ Cop Handle This?	SurferJoe46 (51)	PC World Chat

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555334	2007-06-05 07:12:00	Nearly all NZ cop cars have guns in the boot, and more often then not at least one cop is wearing his when responding to a call out. If its nasty then you can garentee many of them will be armed, I believe that many cars are also fitted with a rifle of some sort. In NZ you are quite likely to get shot dead for smashing windows with a baseball bat. If you touched a cops gun you would already be quite shot. And I believe it was a Golf Club rather than a Baseball Bat. Not being sure how many golf clubs the person had in his bag. Any more than 14 would cost you disqualification in a tournament. Personally I do not blame the police officer in the Waitara case.	Sweep (90)
555335	2007-06-05 07:35:00	You forgot to mention the mayor :horrified That too interested me today. The Mayor in Wanganui has been quoted in News Media today:- www.newstalkzb.co.nz So this Mayor has applauded an arrest by NZ Police. I do wonder if they have the evidence. The arrested people do have to go before a court of law before being found "Guilty" or "Not guilty".... I also wonder how a person gets "Found innocent" as has been mentioned as in the David Bain case? David Bain has been found "Guilty" in the past. He has not been found "Not guilty". There is no verdict of "Innocense" as such in New Zealand as far as I am aware.	Sweep (90)
555336	2007-06-05 14:00:00	i don't think police are as bad as metla cracks them up to be, but i guess that's because all my interactions with them have been getting tickets and having parties broken up - without riot gear now asfaik they don't all carry guns in their cars, and most don't carry them on their person unless they are in an area/situation where they may need them. because guns here are a bit harder to come by there is a significantly slighter risk of being shot - but we still manage it	motorbyclist (188)
555337	2007-06-06 09:12:00	Ive worked with our police a few times and found they have a problem shared with our army....numbers. To battle this they tend lower the standard so more more people can join, unfortunately this brings less comitted or maybe 'a bit loose' types join. Its a pity really as the result has had a few incidents that tend to ruin it for the rest, but, who has not heard that saying before?	rob_on_guitar (4196)
555338	2007-06-06 11:21:00	The New Zealand Police do a good job, there are far too few of them to cover the tasks required, and Political direction to put emphasis on revenue raising work (ie Traffic) ahead of real police work, keeping the community safe from crime and apprehending criminals is an incentive to minor crime. If the Police are two busy to promptly investigate crimes of dishonesty and housebreaking etc, then the chances of petty criminals being caught diminishes and there is then some incentives created for those who would rather not work for a living or to steal rather than buy things they need with money they have worked for. New York Police woke up to the fact that most criminals start off in a small way and work up to bigger brighter criminal activities, and that zero tolerance to all crime is the answer to a safer society. The answer is to make sure your MPs community leaders and the Police accept that it is not OK not to pursue all crime - a policy of zero tolerance to crime, even at this late stage is the best way to reduce NZ appalling Crime statistics. When I was a young man and NZs population was under 2 million, there was less than a dozen murders a year, there are easily that number a month now, and violence in society has become accepted as a fact of life. It doesn't have to be	KenESmith (6287)
555339	2007-06-06 12:44:00	i agree. zero tolerance and heavier sentences. i hear car jacking over in the us scores 5 or 10 years over there while here is 3 months :groan: but then again, the police don't actually recieve any of that "revenue", it goes into the education system asfaik	motorbyclist (188)
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