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| Thread ID: 79842 | 2007-06-03 02:41:00 | Website Building help wanted | Lovelee (6586) | PC World Chat |
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| 555528 | 2007-06-04 06:23:00 | This is a quick design ive made www.imagef1.net.nz Use it if you want I can code it or improve it for you if you want heres some more of my work so you know whats possible: img370.imageshack.us www.imagef1.net.nz img181.imageshack.us img529.imageshack.us |
Chrisn (9819) | ||
| 555529 | 2007-06-04 23:53:00 | Your site's concept is great, but I can see why you need someone to redo it. I agree, and the first thing to get rid of is the grocer's apostrophe on the title. :D Cheers Billy 8-{) |
Billy T (70) | ||
| 555530 | 2007-06-05 01:30:00 | I agree, and the first thing to get rid of is the grocer's apostrophe on the title. :D Cheers Billy 8-{) Dear Billy, Where did you get the idea the apostrophe is in the wrong place, as per our NZ education system, the safe beaches belong to NZ, therefore, the ' goes after the s. Were it before the is it denotes a missing or dropped letter as in it's = it is. As opposed to its' = as in its' leg is broken. |
Lovelee (6586) | ||
| 555531 | 2007-06-05 03:04:00 | Dear Billy, Where did you get the idea the apostrophe is in the wrong place, as per our NZ education system, the safe beaches belong to NZ, therefore, the ' goes after the s . Were it before the is it denotes a missing or dropped letter as in it's = it is . As opposed to its' = as in its' leg is broken . Sorry Lovelee, but you are incorrect on both counts . Firstly, the possessive "its" does not use an apostrophe at all, neither it's nor its' . The only use for "it's" is as a contraction of "it is" . Secondly, New Zealand is singular, therefore the attributes and/or possessions of New Zealand are New Zealand's NOT New Zealands' . We do not live in New Zealands . Turning the sentence around, you would not write "the safe beaches of New Zealands" though you might say "the safe beaches of New Zealand's East Coast" We do say "its leg is broken" without the apostophe, because this is a possessive pronoun . As confusing as that may seem, it rests in good company with ours, yours, hers, theirs, and awkwardly, his . Source for validation: "Style Book" A Guide for New Zealand Writers and Editors by GP Publications . This was formerly known as the New Zealand Government Printing Office Style Book, a bible for writers and editors everywhere . I rest my case, it is a grocer's apostrophe and should be removed . Cheers Billy 8-{) |
Billy T (70) | ||
| 555532 | 2007-06-05 04:07:00 | Eats Shoots and Leaves is also a good - though somewhat tedious - book to read. | somebody (208) | ||
| 555533 | 2007-06-05 04:25:00 | OK Im sorry, weve been debating this all day in another group I am associated with. Ive decided that they must have changed the rules about apostrophes since I left school :) It will be removed when it goes onto the new host. Cheers Billy and thanks for the explanation |
Lovelee (6586) | ||
| 555534 | 2007-06-05 11:16:00 | No worries Lovelee, now you can post an authoritative answer on your other group, and tell them not to argue because you are right. Explain that you got the good oil on apostrophes from a really annoying pedant on PF1. :D I've been called worse. :blush: Cheers Billy 8-{) :) P.S. The rules have not changed either, nor has common usage. |
Billy T (70) | ||
| 555535 | 2007-06-07 11:24:00 | I don't mean to criticize your efforts but I would find the existing site cryptic and confusing to navigate. There are some major problems that you should avoid at all costs in the updated version. 1. Centering Centering can be useful for headings and feature items but in general it is severely obstructive when attempting to read text. It also looks extremely unprofessional. 2. Mystery buttons There is no way for a visitor to tell where all those picture buttons go. Even a unique and distinctive logo for a link is not good enough, let alone generic pictures of animals and plants. You need it clearly stated in text what the purpose of each link is. 3. Missing alt attributes Your images do not have text alternatives. This is very bad practice as it immediately excludes the blind or those using text browsers. 4. Poor paragraph structure You should not have paragraph breaks between sentences. Enough said. 5. Spinning graphic at the bottom This is not the 1990s. Pointless animation is not cool, it just makes you look bad. The same goes for the bevel effects. These comments are intended to be constructive so take them as criticism but not of the destructive kind. The site currently screams amateur - not a good look. If you can't get a professional web developer to do it then at least work from a nice, clean template somewhere like here (http://www.openwebdesign.org/). |
TGoddard (7263) | ||
| 555536 | 2007-06-08 01:37:00 | Thanks for all that TGoddard. I do see it all as constructive. I am well aware of the amateurishness of the site .. you should have seen the one before this one :) Part of my concept has been to make the visit here a holiday from the minute they have access with us via the site. And the girly in me wants to put every toy I can find on it, well maybe not every toy but some. The site you link to, similar to others I have gone to for templates. I have downloaded many and found that to change things to suit my site information isnt as damned what you do is what you see as they want me to believe. Makes me think Im doing something wrong. Am I? |
Lovelee (6586) | ||
| 555537 | 2007-06-08 02:02:00 | Not sure about your last question, never having used a template before. But from the previous posts it sounds like you've got volunteers to help you with a new design. Tell them to get onto it and then start looking at constructive criticisms and change the new site in increments. Else just pay someone (like me) a small wad of cash and get it done professionaly. :thumbs: |
Greg (193) | ||
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