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| 557835 | 2007-06-10 04:40:00 | Just watched the Penn and Teller show Bullsh*t on the supposed energy crisis. Good to see a pro nuclear power view presented and one can only wonder why New Zealand maintains this anti-nuclear position. Let's build a nuclear power station in Invercargill and be done with it. Love that show. |
Twelvevolts (5457) | ||
| 557836 | 2007-06-10 04:41:00 | Just watched the Penn and Teller show Bullsh*t on the supposed energy crisis. Good to see a pro nuclear power view presented and one can only wonder why New Zealand maintains this anti-nuclear position. Let's build a nuclear power station in Invercargill and be done with it. Love that show. I prefer building one in Northland - closer to Auckland, so less transmission losses to the main energy consumer - not to mention the anti-pylon debate. Also, see my thread: pressf1.pcworld.co.nz |
somebody (208) | ||
| 557837 | 2007-06-10 04:45:00 | I prefer building one in Northland - closer to Auckland, so less transmission losses to the main energy consumer - not to mention the anti-pylon debate. Also, see my thread: pressf1.pcworld.co.nz Yes Queen Street would work for me. The Penn and Teller show on Anger Management is perhaps even better - Series 5 episodes 9 (energy crisis) and 10 (anger management) respectively. |
Twelvevolts (5457) | ||
| 557838 | 2007-06-10 04:53:00 | www.pbs.org In 1973 French policy makers saw only one way for France to achieve energy independence: nuclear energy, a source of energy so compact that a few pounds of fissionable uranium is all the fuel needed to run a big city for a year. Plans were drawn up to introduce the most comprehensive national nuclear energy program in history. Over the next 15 years France installed 56 nuclear reactors, satisfying its power needs and even exporting electricity to other European countries. |
Scouse (83) | ||
| 557839 | 2007-06-10 06:09:00 | www.pbs.org In 1973 French policy makers saw only one way for France to achieve energy independence: nuclear energy, a source of energy so compact that a few pounds of fissionable uranium is all the fuel needed to run a big city for a year. Plans were drawn up to introduce the most comprehensive national nuclear energy program in history. Over the next 15 years France installed 56 nuclear reactors, satisfying its power needs and even exporting electricity to other European countries. Back on the 14th July the french used a Giullatine . Bastille day. The French sent people here to sink a ship as well in recent times. |
Sweep (90) | ||
| 557840 | 2007-06-10 06:14:00 | Hey TwelveVolts, which Penn & Teller episode is that P and T's Bullsh*t tv series rocks, they so speak the truth. I have seen most of them just can't recall the necular power one? Cheers |
radium (8645) | ||
| 557841 | 2007-06-10 07:41:00 | I have no real problem with the generating side of nuclear power; done properly, it's clean & safe, although there has to be a lot of independent inspections to make sure that maintenance & staff training was absolutely top-notch. A lot of (if not all) the nuclear incidents of the last few decades could probbaly be blamed on poor maintenance and/or insufficient staff training or discipline. My main issue with nuclear power is the waste disposal/storage side. IIRC, the USA spent around US$4 billion investigating sites for national disposal facilities before settling on their current site (somewhere in New Mexico, I believe). I don't think NZ could safely store its waste anywhere, as I doubt we have any site geologically stable enough to trust for the next few ten thousands of years. I reckon use wind/tidal power here until the boffins get the fusion thing right (although I think that might not going to be much cleaner, just uses much less raw materials). Hey, there's always conserving energy - this is one area we could definitely do better. The great thing about that is that it's a natural consequence of depleting power supplies - the prices will move up & force us Joe Avereage consumers to do something to save our wallets. |
MushHead (10626) | ||
| 557842 | 2007-06-10 08:02:00 | Hey TwelveVolts, which Penn & Teller episode is that P and T's Bullsh*t tv series rocks, they so speak the truth. I have seen most of them just can't recall the necular power one? Cheers Series five episode 9 |
Twelvevolts (5457) | ||
| 557843 | 2007-06-10 08:05:00 | I have no real problem with the generating side of nuclear power; done properly, it's clean & safe, although there has to be a lot of independent inspections to make sure that maintenance & staff training was absolutely top-notch. A lot of (if not all) the nuclear incidents of the last few decades could probbaly be blamed on poor maintenance and/or insufficient staff training or discipline. My main issue with nuclear power is the waste disposal/storage side. IIRC, the USA spent around US$4 billion investigating sites for national disposal facilities before settling on their current site (somewhere in New Mexico, I believe). I don't think NZ could safely store its waste anywhere, as I doubt we have any site geologically stable enough to trust for the next few ten thousands of years. I reckon use wind/tidal power here until the boffins get the fusion thing right (although I think that might not going to be much cleaner, just uses much less raw materials). Hey, there's always conserving energy - this is one area we could definitely do better. The great thing about that is that it's a natural consequence of depleting power supplies - the prices will move up & force us Joe Avereage consumers to do something to save our wallets. Yeah the Greenies have managed to hold up the US nuclear waste disposal - it's covered in the Penn and Teller show. I'm sure we could send the waste somewhere else. |
Twelvevolts (5457) | ||
| 557844 | 2007-06-10 09:12:00 | I have no real problem with the generating side of nuclear power; done properly, it's clean & safe, although there has to be a lot of independent inspections to make sure that maintenance & staff training was absolutely top-notch. A lot of (if not all) the nuclear incidents of the last few decades could probbaly be blamed on poor maintenance and/or insufficient staff training or discipline. My main issue with nuclear power is the waste disposal/storage side. IIRC, the USA spent around US$4 billion investigating sites for national disposal facilities before settling on their current site (somewhere in New Mexico, I believe). I don't think NZ could safely store its waste anywhere, as I doubt we have any site geologically stable enough to trust for the next few ten thousands of years. I reckon use wind/tidal power here until the boffins get the fusion thing right (although I think that might not going to be much cleaner, just uses much less raw materials). Hey, there's always conserving energy - this is one area we could definitely do better. The great thing about that is that it's a natural consequence of depleting power supplies - the prices will move up & force us Joe Avereage consumers to do something to save our wallets. A lot of countries don't store their waste themselves, rather, ship it overseas for reprocessing (e.g. to Japan), or for dumping (e.g. Australia). |
somebody (208) | ||
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