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| Thread ID: 80001 | 2007-06-08 07:19:00 | Police charges dismissed | Cicero (40) | PC World Chat |
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| 557200 | 2007-06-09 23:27:00 | i think the major problem here, aside from the media's interpretation of a "loaded" weapon, is that the law requires firearms to be securely stored seperately from ammunition. so if he had a gun in one pocket and loaded mag in the other he's definetly in breach of the law. but then the judges threw it out, showing the system worked for once. actually i'm not sure with dealers but for ordinary people you do not have to store firearms separately,its only recommended you do. i think E cat(military semi auto) your meant to have it separate. but whats the definition of separate.... gun in one hand and ammo in the other is separate. again another case of vague laws. for once the system has worked, its just disappointing that it even went that far and has cost carvell quite a bit already. the big problem with the system is the police can lay a charge they know darn well will not hold up in court, knowing full well that the cost of lawyers etc will do far more punishment than any conviction. |
tweak'e (69) | ||
| 557201 | 2007-06-10 00:40:00 | Training youth for the brave new future world? apnews.myway.com |
zqwerty (97) | ||
| 557202 | 2007-06-10 04:17:00 | ... I remember a case some time back where a builder had some wood maybe 4x2 and it was being stolen for firewood. The builder drilled holes in the said wood and put .22 bullets in there. He was charged.Of course he was charged. The "firewood finder" was the local cop. :) |
Graham L (2) | ||
| 557203 | 2007-06-10 04:29:00 | While living In Aussie we had our house knocked over, Took the cops 3 days to call in, I told em to p'off. They decided to hang around and hassle me instead because I got sick of waiting for them and hooked what was left of our tv system back together and closed the window where they gained entry. I also tidied up the mess they had made of the house. Seems I had disturbed their scene, ***, Yeah right. Also at a train station 800m from our house someone tried to throw a bomb through the train window, it bounced back and blew his foot off.Lmao. Then there was the time I dropped Mrs Metla off to catch her morning train and a couple of armed robbers ran out of the store across the road from the station, round my car, then into the carriage Mrs Metla had just entered. That freaked me. Luckily their plan was escape, they ran down a few carriages then leaped off at the next station. Then there was the madman who while naked was firing shots into the air outside the local shopping center, Being oblivious to this I drove around the police cordon and parked up, Went to walk into the bottle shop to get me beers and noticed all the people lying on the floor of the supermarket, Just as it occurred to me that this was a bit strange a couple of gunshots went off quite close,scaring the sheet out of me, crazy naked man runs past, gets tackled by the cops right beside my car....I'm thinking I hope they don't notice my car has no registration. On the plus side, I never ever saw cops unless they were responding to an incident, I received one speeding ticket in 6 years, I came home for a holiday and received $700 worth of tickets in 2 weeks.....Though I will admit I did drive the wrong way around a round-about, but god damn, If someone cant pull out when there is a gap then I have the right to drive around them. I think I know why Oz didn't make the top ten safest countries list. |
Twelvevolts (5457) | ||
| 557204 | 2007-06-10 13:59:00 | actually i'm not sure with dealers but for ordinary people you do not have to store firearms separately,its only recommended you do. i think E cat(military semi auto) your meant to have it separate. but whats the definition of separate.... gun in one hand and ammo in the other is separate. again another case of vague laws. maybe i'm getting confused with all the gun safety stuff i've been told over the years:waughh: |
motorbyclist (188) | ||
| 557205 | 2007-06-11 10:36:00 | I can't speak for Victoria or NSW, but the Police in Queensland do investigate minor crime relatively promptly, usually within an hour or two of the offence. I have not only had personal experience in NZ, but all too much anecdotal evidence of victims of minor crime - ie vandalism, malicious damage to property, theft and burglary, being advised by the NZ Police of a File Number for their Insurance Claim. The point I tried to make earlier was that 30 minutes on a Saturday evening to respond to a report of Armed robbery in progress some 3km from the Auckland Central Police Station is not exactly a lightning response. A 1 hour response to a complaint of criminal damage would not happen in NZ unless the victim was an MP or some other high profile victim, and frankly the New Zealand Police should be manned and resourced to a level necessary to respond promptly to crime and protect the public - its the Politicians that have created the problem and they should be coerced by their constituents into fixing it, by coercion forced to face the distinct possibility of unemployment after the next election. If they do not want citizens to take the law into their own hands and protect themselves and their property, they have a duty to provide the Police with the resources to do the job. |
KenESmith (6287) | ||
| 557206 | 2007-06-11 11:59:00 | A 1 hour response to a complaint of criminal damage would not happen in NZ unless the victim was an MP or some other high profile victim. Perhaps this is the case in Auckland and maybe a couple of other bigger centres but definitely not so in smaller towns and cities. |
Tukapa (62) | ||
| 557207 | 2007-06-11 14:51:00 | Of course he was charged. The "firewood finder" was the local cop. :) I was not aware of that. Thank you. |
Sweep (90) | ||
| 557208 | 2007-06-12 03:05:00 | Perhaps this is the case in Auckland and maybe a couple of other bigger centres but definitely not so in smaller towns and cities. yeah out side of centres its slower if at all. remeber police are there to mop up not to protect you. makes little difference to them if your dead or not. be prepared :thumbs: |
tweak'e (69) | ||
| 557209 | 2007-06-12 11:29:00 | I can't speak for Victoria or NSW, but the Police in Queensland do investigate minor crime relatively promptly, usually within an hour or two of the offence. I have not only had personal experience in NZ, but all too much anecdotal evidence of victims of minor crime - ie vandalism, malicious damage to property, theft and burglary, being advised by the NZ Police of a File Number for their Insurance Claim. The point I tried to make earlier was that 30 minutes on a Saturday evening to respond to a report of Armed robbery in progress some 3km from the Auckland Central Police Station is not exactly a lightning response. A 1 hour response to a complaint of criminal damage would not happen in NZ unless the victim was an MP or some other high profile victim, and frankly the New Zealand Police should be manned and resourced to a level necessary to respond promptly to crime and protect the public - its the Politicians that have created the problem and they should be coerced by their constituents into fixing it, by coercion forced to face the distinct possibility of unemployment after the next election. If they do not want citizens to take the law into their own hands and protect themselves and their property, they have a duty to provide the Police with the resources to do the job. Sounds about right to me Kenno,as usual much fence sitting here re controversial issues. |
Cicero (40) | ||
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