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| Thread ID: 97513 | 2009-02-18 08:28:00 | Error message pop-up after removing start-up programs | Beemer (6956) | Press F1 |
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| 749087 | 2009-03-06 03:58:00 | if its dropping the setting, you may need full administrator rights to alter it - even if your account has admin rights, they are not fully active. you may need to log into the "real" admin account, then alter the settings that way. Only ultimate and business has the GUI function - the other versions of Vista are missing several features. I have tried the following in Ultimate( thats all I have on all the PC's) - cant try at the moment in premium, as I dont have any. bring visible the Real Admin Account: Try this ( wont hurt) click the start orb, type in cmd when it appears, RIGHT click it, run as administrator. type in net user Administrator /active:yes and hit enter if you want a password it then type in ( you dont have to have one if you dont want. net user Administrator Password (where Password is whatever you want the admin password to be) and hit enter Type in exit hit enter. Reboot the PC, you will now have the real Admin account showing, log in, and alter the security setting, reboot and log in normally. See if it holds OK. If it does, and you want to hide the admin account, repeat above the first steps, but this time say net user Administrator /active:No Reboot and the account is re hidden. |
wainuitech (129) | ||
| 749088 | 2009-03-06 04:10:00 | I disabled Windows Defender after several people advised me to - what should I do in that case? Reinstall it and update it? I never had this error message before blocking some startup programs and disabling Windows Defender. | Beemer (6956) | ||
| 749089 | 2009-03-06 04:11:00 | Well has it ever been updated? If it hasnt, (and its a beta) update it |
Speedy Gonzales (78) | ||
| 749090 | 2009-03-06 04:19:00 | I have no idea if it's a beta or not, or whether it was ever updated (Windows updates everything else daily, so I would assume so), but if I have disabled it anyway, what would I need to do to update it - enable it again? Then disable it again after updating or leave active? | Beemer (6956) | ||
| 749091 | 2009-03-06 05:42:00 | Personally, while Windows defender is hopeless - I have found it doesn't cause any speed difference in startup if its enabled or not, some PC's I have here have it disabled some dont - the updates for it come through all the time even on PC's that have defender turned off.. Windows Defender is built into Vista, it will not show in programs and Features either so it cant be uninstalled in the normal manner. My Advice _ enable it, and forget it, esp if the option to turn off the warnings is not working. |
wainuitech (129) | ||
| 749092 | 2009-03-06 05:47:00 | Try this-in msconfig, windows defender is unticked, tick it, and see if it happens. On a pc I was working on today, I unticked windows defender in msconfig and windows defender blocked msconfig! Stupid M$.... |
Blam (54) | ||
| 749093 | 2009-03-06 06:22:00 | if its dropping the setting, you may need full administrator rights to alter it - even if your account has admin rights, they are not fully active. you may need to log into the "real" admin account, then alter the settings that way. Only ultimate and business has the GUI function - the other versions of Vista are missing several features. I have tried the following in Ultimate( thats all I have on all the PC's) - cant try at the moment in premium, as I dont have any. bring visible the Real Admin Account: Try this ( wont hurt) click the start orb, type in cmd when it appears, RIGHT click it, run as administrator. type in net user Administrator /active:yes and hit enter if you want a password it then type in ( you dont have to have one if you dont want. net user Administrator Password (where Password is whatever you want the admin password to be) and hit enter Type in exit hit enter. Reboot the PC, you will now have the real Admin account showing, log in, and alter the security setting, reboot and log in normally. See if it holds OK. If it does, and you want to hide the admin account, repeat above the first steps, but this time say net user Administrator /active:No Reboot and the account is re hidden. I typed it in exactly as you had it above - spaces and capital letters, etc and it said the command prompt could not be found (or something like that). I then tried it without any spaces and got nothing again. I looked at the warning icon again and found the blocked program was supposedly system configuration, but when I tried to run it, I got that 'Application failed to initialise...' message again. Windows Defender is not showing in my startup list and when I go into control panel and try to open it, I get that same message again. Should I download it again and go from there? |
Beemer (6956) | ||
| 749094 | 2009-03-06 06:30:00 | Did you retick windows defender in msconfig? Don't do it though Windows Defender, do it through msconfig |
Blam (54) | ||
| 749095 | 2009-03-06 06:46:00 | Tried that but it wasn't there! Ended up going in and ticking 'normal boot' or whatever in msconfig and rebooted computer. All seems fine - pop-up HP updater returned (hadn't noticed it gone!) and error message has gone. No doubt I will have some crap I don't need in the startup menu but it didn't seem to be that slow in starting so I think I may just have to live with it for now! Thanks for all your help everyone. | Beemer (6956) | ||
| 749096 | 2009-03-06 07:14:00 | As mentioned several time, Windows Defender is built into Vista, it cant be removed like you would any other program fro programs and features. I double checked those commands, and they are correct heres the command in the box (www.imagef1.net.nz) - I have wiped my name out thats what the white bits are ;) All control Panel settings are set to show " Classic View ( on the left menu near the top of the page) ) OK - I installed a copy of Vista Home Premium on a workshop PC and managed to replicate the error message and not being able to disable it exactly. The Fix that worked for me: Go into the Control Panel / user accounts / turn user Control off or On - turn it off. Reboot the PC when told to. Go back into the control Panel / Security Center / instructions as per post #17. It appeared not to turn off - reboot, then you should have gotten this here (www.imagef1.net.nz) - the red - and no more warnings PS: that was done Via the normal users account, NOT the admin account. |
wainuitech (129) | ||
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