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| Thread ID: 80287 | 2007-06-17 23:01:00 | Need to Survey Public | Tyroneb (11728) | PC World Chat |
| Post ID | Timestamp | Content | User | ||
| 560281 | 2007-06-18 03:27:00 | what do you mean by "never stop learning" | Tyroneb (11728) | ||
| 560282 | 2007-06-18 03:40:00 | All silly philosophies aside, there's always room for both . If we are talking about games, sports and gambling, then the results of losing can be very bad and, usually as not, they don't impart learning or morality, which is where I think the real issue lies . Humans don't seem to get the whole picture anyway . It's either vanquish or be vanquished . Winning instills knowledge that you did things well enough to garner more points and therefor have now earned accolades and a pat on the back . You might win these by clubbing an opponent to death or just tossing a coin with better results . Losing creates fantasies that you may have had a bad day, chose the wrong shirt, ate the wrong breakfast or have body odor . . . and this is a Madison Avenue approach to the subject . You might also be the clubbed one from the last paragraph . We all get the "I-shouldda-saids" or "shouldda-dones" that can cripple us if we let them go on reinforced by successive failures . I think it all boils down to what other shallow people perceive about you . . as you either slink away defeated or pump up and strut . Most people live in a world that needs assurances and support by peers and social structures . We, as gregarious animals, need assurance and acceptance to be in the tribe . Neither is a real learning experience if the goals and motives are wrong . . . . one is easily debased, however, the other easily overstated . If you "score" a line of cocaine, you are fooling yourself . . it's a lose/lose proposition no matter what the temporary feelings are . You get peer group hubris there . If you lose to love, you are wiser and more resilient in the end . You get peer group sentiments there . If you lose at Russian Roulette, you assume room temperature . You get peer group pity there . If you win big at the lottery, you have transient happiness . . but then you also have a lot of new "lost friends" and relatives too . That could go either way . As I see it, the choices you put forth are too few and too limiting in concept to prove . To put it in an "either-or" category is unfair and I feel just panders to a knee jerk response . I would like a synopsis on what comes of your debate . And as I stated, I think this debate is fairly plebeian at best . . . but I am still interested . I also tend to lean toward the learning experience of losing . . at least 50% of the time . . . it keep me humble and quiet . |
SurferJoe46 (51) | ||
| 560283 | 2007-06-18 03:55:00 | thanks for that surferjoe, i will remember to post the results of the debate when its all over. Whats russian roulette and i dont quite get the "peer group pity thing" either? |
Tyroneb (11728) | ||
| 560284 | 2007-06-18 04:31:00 | Russian Roulette is where you take a 6-shot revolver and just put one bullet in it and take turns pointing it to your head and the head of the other player and pulling the trigger . The one who gets his brains scrambled loses . Peer-group is typically the people who are in your particular age bracket or ethnicity or sex . It can be a large group (humans on earth) or a small group (your best buddies or even your debating club) . Pity is pretty well self-explanatory . I am interested in your debate however, seriously . Please take good notes and if there's any minutes or ascription of the debate, please let me know . . maybe you can e-mail me a copy . Can I assume that you are in NZ? |
SurferJoe46 (51) | ||
| 560285 | 2007-06-18 05:25:00 | "winning" a cross country race against me make you better than me? Bear in mind in less than three weeks I will get National Superannuation so I have a little life experience but you should be somewhat faster on your feet I would hope . But for all I know you may be in a wheelchair . Aaah Sweep . . . you beat me to being a pensioner by a couple of months but I feel at our age every win is a good thing . Not to revert to tripping up the other runners, but any other form of distraction is OK . The hare and the tortoise sort of thing :thumbs: Ken |
kenj (9738) | ||
| 560286 | 2007-06-18 05:27:00 | Hello Everyone, I have a school project coming up on why losing is better than winning. I have to negate this (its a debate) and i need statistical data to prove most people believe winning to be better than losing. So i would appreciate it greatly if you could fill out the poll with either option. Thanks TB Ps: sorry for accidentally making 2 threads i didnt add the poll to the 1st one sorry If losing was better than winning we would all have been jumping for joy at losing the America's Cup and the Rugby World Cup after we one it in 1987, funny thing was that I saw a lot of people upset but nobody was cheering at either occasion. |
winmacguy (3367) | ||
| 560287 | 2007-06-18 06:36:00 | If you pick the Losing is better than Winning side of the argument and do the ironic thing of actually winning it.... you should book yourself a career as a lawyer since that is basically what they do for a very high hourly fee. | winmacguy (3367) | ||
| 560288 | 2007-06-19 13:16:00 | lol | motorbyclist (188) | ||
| 560289 | 2007-06-19 23:44:00 | This is New Zealand 2007. There are no losers, only winners. :thumbs: Now, lets all have a group hug. :p | Winston001 (3612) | ||
| 560290 | 2007-06-20 01:38:00 | This is New Zealand 2007 . There are no losers, only winners . :thumbs: Now, lets all have a group hug . :p You guys lost the Americas' Cup? :eek: Dang! Fax me a hug . . . please? I need peer support . :p In life, it's important to watch out for Number One . . . and while you're at it, don't step in Number Two . :thumbs: |
SurferJoe46 (51) | ||
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