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Thread ID: 143952 2017-05-21 23:05:00 New Camera kenj (9738) PC World Chat
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1435607 2017-05-21 23:05:00 This post in not so much on me buying a new camera, more of a nostalgic rant of my experience in doing so!

I gave my 5yr old Canon DSLR with a couple of kit lenses to my Granddaughter a few weeks ago as she is keen on photography and studying it at school. Just one of those things you do for grandkids :)

I love photography and have been quite a serious hobbyist for 35+ years now, so going to just quietly look around and buy a new camera body sometime between now and Spring. I marveled again at the Web and YouTube for the amount of information one can obtain these days. I viewed all the cameras available here in NZ, compared prices, selected Crop Sensor bodies for compatibility with my already owned lenses, weight, watched reviews on YouTube for any problems others may have had etc. etc. etc.

Wonderful compared to when I bought my first SLR and 50mm lens, a Pentax Spotmatic, all those years ago where the only info was a camera store salesman saying "...this is a good one to start with" then joining a camera club to learn the basics.

From that, I learned the basics of exposure, composition, darkroom printing complete with all its chemical smells etc. The progressed to medium format, doing the occasional wedding. All experience gained by doing the job. Commonly known as the "hard yards"

Today it is all done for us. My new DSLR is smarter than I am. Apart from composing the photo, the automatic settings do a pretty darn good photo. But I like to have control over what I do and it caters for people like me and my prefered aperture priority whims :)

It is an example of modern technology.... has so many features most of which I will never use, but there if I want to. I am very happy with my new "toy" (as SWMBO CALLS it) It comes with a massive 200+ page manual which answers almost every question I ask. Once again, the Net allows me to download the manual for ease of searching answers to my queries.

There is only one fault with I..... it can't make phone calls :)

And yes, I know, I couldn't wait till spring :)

Ken
kenj (9738)
1435608 2017-05-21 23:52:00 So? What camera did you buy and why? Bryan (147)
1435609 2017-05-22 00:16:00 I did not say because the post was about the difference in photography over the past years. :)

Noel Leemings in Hastings made me an offer I could not refuse so I bought the EOS 80D. So far I am very pleased. It does all I want and is compatible with my existing lenses. I was interested in the EOS 77D which just came out this year as it is quite a bit lighter but Canon have tried to simplify it by putting in slide graphics for things like water flowing mode. I tend to like, and know how to set the camera to do these things.

Ken
kenj (9738)
1435610 2017-05-22 01:03:00 Nice, I've got a 70D and really just dabble....would like to get a bit better but don't seem to be able to find the time.

I would love to get a Canon 70-200 f/2.8 L IS II lens, but at $1900 USD it's really not justifiable...the Sigma 18-35 f/1.8 Art is also a killer bit of glass made for the APS-C Bodies. The 80D with a 70-200 is awesome for sports photography.
wratterus (105)
1435611 2017-05-22 02:14:00 Apart from composing the photo, the automatic settings do a pretty darn good photo. B

My father was a photographer. he had both old cameras and digital.

But that was half of it, the settings.
The other half, is exactly that - composing it.
The difference between our auto photos and his was totally noticable. Which is why he was a photographer and we are not.
Part art too....
pctek (84)
1435612 2017-05-22 02:17:00 Nice, I've got a 70D and really just dabble....would like to get a bit better but don't seem to be able to find the time.

I would love to get a Canon 70-200 f/2.8 L IS II lens, but at $1900 USD it's really not justifiable...the Sigma 18-35 f/1.8 Art is also a killer bit of glass made for the APS-C Bodies. The 80D with a 70-200 is awesome for sports photography.

I saw some reviews on YouTube of that one or similar lens photographing a horse race. Stunning images!! 7fps is great for that purpose.

Another good factor is the 1/8000sec shutter speed. Might be able to get a photo of SWMBO with her mouth closed :devil

Look at B&H in New York. I have bought a couple of refurbished lenses off them. Was great when our $ was good against theirs.

Ken:clap:clap
kenj (9738)
1435613 2017-05-22 03:09:00 Another good factor is the 1/8000sec shutter speed. Might be able to get a photo of SWMBO with her mouth closed :devil

Lol!
wratterus (105)
1435614 2017-05-22 08:38:00 NZ doesn't have a film culture nearly 3x as much as overseas for the film and the lab is about 1.5x. They no longer offer mounting service - remember those. Interesting the film cameras even the expensive ones are cheaper here used than overseas or they just don't sell.

I have had this hobby for 13yrs, other than a film SLR and using Kodak Gold and the pharmacy my first was really a digital SLR and I now shoot film as well including medium format. My next camera is possibly a used Fuji mirrorless. dSLR have gotten larger and larger. I sure remember the Olympus OM, I have a Nikon FM. Some of my friends still have their Canon AE-1. So much more compact with a classical 35mm prime lens. Going overseas with a dSLR and the kit lens or a mid zoom f2.8 is just too large. Inside the plane or train, outside walking, in the malls . I've also found out over time what my preferred lenses are and very seldom take 3 out with me. I do take cityscapes and landscapes, with a tripod I have found that with so much gear I get to my spot, shoot and go home without enjoying the place or doing other stuff cos I had too much gear. The shots are also so deliberate and few of them, that you don't capture the other aspects of the location. It was like I was not there except these few postcards.

Looking back and it's crazy what my gear is now worth. Prefer buying used now. A no. of my photography buddies have gone mirrorless after being dSLR users.

Nikon D600 user here with film cameras - Nikon F100 and Fm2n. Mamiya RB67 and Hasselblad 500CM. The RB is like 2x the size and weight of the Hassie :D Being a later comer I process my own b/w film but don't wet print. Flatbed scanners doesn't seem that sharp though. I have been given some 1990s old magazines - both b/w and colour photography and they do look different. Colour was more richer and planned out prob with the slow gear they had back then and b/w looked better processed / developed.
Nomad (952)
1435615 2017-05-23 04:35:00 I started off in the 1970s with a Practika and colour slides and have generally gone along with new technology as it became available .

Today I go for a small camera that takes 4K video . There's nothing quite like POV video for capturing the feeling of "being there" which is why Go Pro have been so successful .

But there are small cameras much better than Go Pro . My current is a Panasonic TZ110 . It has a 1" sensor, 20 Mpx, f2 . 8 lens, 10x optical zoom, 37 - 370mm . (ISO 12,800 as standard ie, without extension) . It also has optical image stabilisation even when taking video .

The advantage of 4k is that it can be stabilised (again) in Adobe Premiere Pro CS6 (which doesn't require a subscription) then I can move a 1920 x 1080 window around the 3840 x 2160 video to centre the view . This is effectively a third layer of stabilisation and it allows me to walk along with the camera at waist height . To finish it off, I can double the frame rate in ReSpeedR (US $100) AND halve the speed at the same time . The result is beautifully smooth action even when turning corners
BBCmicro (15761)
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