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| Thread ID: 143859 | 2017-04-27 04:27:00 | "Word" | beetle (243) | PC World Chat |
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| 1434654 | 2017-04-29 07:41:00 | The sort of Bull#$%^ going on here is the sort of stuff that really grinds my gears. MS loves to make each version of their Office packages use a slightly updated format as the default. This means that without updated converters (which they release sometime later) people with older version can't open docs from the newer suite. The result is that businesses and lemmings with more $ than sense tend to rush out and by the latest Office suite, and in so doing they amplify the issue further. The usual pattern is that educational staff have the latest versions, which they get free, or heavily discounted, but they should be able to open a multitude of formats without drama. Open Office is free, and can be configured to make compatible Doc or Docx files, and I'd be very surprised if there isn't a word count feature in there somewhere. Make sure files going to the school aren't compressed, or on an encrypted drive. Get into the options of whichever package you are using, and set the Compatibility defaults to allign with the OLDER version of Word. Docx shouldn't be needed unless there's lots of embedded images. Turn off compression for improved compatibility. File... Save As... Options... is sometimes the pathway to these things. There's another possibility... that your kid is deceiving you in order to get you to splash out on the software she wants, rather than on the software which is sufficient. Make sure you're not being conned into buying her new gear. |
Paul.Cov (425) | ||
| 1434655 | 2017-04-29 09:24:00 | Why not just save as a PDF | plod (107) | ||
| 1434656 | 2017-04-29 11:51:00 | Lol this kid is an adult. She will be the one paying for it not me lol Personally I hate pdf... But she is adamant that it's doc. The next assignment is 2 essays with a word limit 6000 words. If she saves it as .doc an puts it on a pen drive an the lecturer can't open it .....they need to look why.... Cos after all this great advice we should not be the problem. On a good note she has found the word count in open office..... Last I heard 2800 words..... :( Another 3000 to go an then essay 2 can be started lol. Thanks heaps everyone. |
beetle (243) | ||
| 1434657 | 2017-04-29 21:32:00 | Seriously.....new versions of Word, using by default the.docx format are perfectly capable of opening old .doc files. I have said, the problem is with the lecturer. Tell her to go to IT, they can then sort this **** out with the moron. It's wasting her time and money playing around buying new software or downloading stuff. |
pctek (84) | ||
| 1434658 | 2017-04-29 23:35:00 | It might be corruption or damage of the document. Did she base (i.e typed within it) her document from a submitted (custom) template (often called/formatted as The "normal" .dot template) or a Macro enabled template? Need determine what kind of template. See here (support.microsoft.com) to do so., and how to repair the document. Possibly a mashup of advanced features to generate a .dot template is now giving issues... But if she started from a standard blank - and fresh unedited document (i.e. .doc - not.dot), then possibly corruption -she may have pulled out the USB stick shortly after editing, and for lengthy/heavily styled/formatted documents best to safely remove it as described here (etc.usf.edu), by waiting for the pop-up message - "safe to remove ...etc, after clicking it's "eject to remove" icon in the task bar. |
kahawai chaser (3545) | ||
| 1434659 | 2017-04-29 23:51:00 | best to safely remove it as described here, by waiting for the pop-up message - "safe to remove ...etc, after clicking it's "eject to remove" icon in the task bar. MANY people don't do that. Saw it once at a business, I Was waiting while they were copying a lot of files to a USB drive for me to take away - the LED was still flashing (as working) and they pulled out the USB Drive - instant corruption of the whole drive :annoyed: | wainuitech (129) | ||
| 1434660 | 2017-04-30 00:18:00 | Safe remove isn't necessary as long as you are sure the drive isn't in the middle of writing something as per Wainuis story. The default policy for removable USB drives in windows is not to write cache anything making the safely remove option optional. If however you change the policy to enable write caching you have to use safely remove every time. Still better safe than sorry if there are important files involved. | dugimodo (138) | ||
| 1434661 | 2017-04-30 00:45:00 | If we knew what the lecturer is using it would make understanding this incompatibility easier. Libre Office would be preferred over Open Office because they seem to maintain it more often. When Oracle took over Sun, they acquired OpenOffice.org which they literally killed. That is why Libre Office was forked from it. Oracle then gave Apache it, and although they do update it. It is still quite stale. Word 2010 and up supports ODT (can someone verify) so she may not need to save it as a DOC file. If the lecturer is using anything older, the incompatibility issues are their fault and they need to rectify it instead. |
Kame (312) | ||
| 1434662 | 2017-04-30 01:00:00 | There's one very simple way to find out where the problem actually is. As zqwerty posted in #30 Send a file she's having problems with to someone, and see if they can open it, OR take the USB drive to a friend or someone else who has either MS Office or Open/ libre office and see if they can open it. If no one else has problems as its been said its the tutors problem not yours. |
wainuitech (129) | ||
| 1434663 | 2017-04-30 03:03:00 | Safe remove isn't necessary as long as you are sure the drive isn't in the middle of writing something . This happens with all media - SD cards for instance. You can get away with it - or not. I've done it with my phone SD card heaps without problems. Of course, it's pushing your luck and of course I killed it eventually. |
pctek (84) | ||
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