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Thread ID: 80364	2007-06-20 06:33:00	NZ Newspaper Advertisements For Homes	SurferJoe46 (51)	PC World Chat

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560977	2007-06-22 07:07:00	OK . . it's a mobile home, but the differences in prices are astounding! and I hate campervans/mobile homes . I can see we gotta get NZ-speak and US-speak straightened out here a little . "Mobile home" ( . imagef1 . net . nz/files/MH_Not_Mine . jpg" target="_blank">www . imagef1 . net . nz) is not mobile . (That pix is NOT MY HOME!) It WAS mobile . . just on the way from the factory, and is now set on a foundation like most other homes . The axles and wheels are removed when it's in place . Some are delivered in halves via sky crane helicopters or on flatbed trailers, and then craned off to the foundation . The one I own HAD wheels, came from Arizona and has lived here since it arrived . It came in two pieces, the utility side and the non-utility side . It is 60 feet long and 30 feet wide, (18 . 288m x 9 . 144m . . . I think that's right) has three bedrooms, two full baths (we call "full" as meaning a shower and a bathtub and a full sink/pullman and toilet each . ) We have a dining room, non-formal, a large laundry room with washer and a drier and folding bench and ironing area, a full kitchen and dining area for snacks and short meals, a living room and a full master bedroom with a Queen sized bed (this is our actual bed) ( . imagef1 . net . nz/files/100_0420 . JPG" target="_blank">www . imagef1 . net . nz) . We have a total of three (3) bedrooms including the master . A "camp trailer" or "rv-trailer" ( . imagef1 . net . nz/files/ourtrailer2 . jpg" target="_blank">www . imagef1 . net . nz) is something you haul behind your vehicle . . pref a pickup truck or very large sedan to go on a vacation with all the trimmings and accouterments that are your own . "Campervans" are something totally different . . we call them "motorhomes" ( . imagef1 . net . nz/files/motorhome . jpg" target="_blank">www . imagef1 . net . nz) as they incorporate their own form of motive power (ie: engine) that is usually mounted in the front, but the new trend is to build "pushers" with huge diesel 500 hp engines in the rear like a tourist bus . They are self contained with electricity, water and holding tanks for waste . Hey . . Scouse . . I am just sharing . . that's all . . . just sharing for the sake of education for all concerned; I don't want to be a salesperson for immigration to anywhere . . it's just a fun comparison-thing . . . OK? :thumbs: I hate deserts . I hate gun mad yanks . I hate Country and Western . Deserts are life-forms too, and they have a great number of animals, plants and topical landscapes to keep one busy seeing it all for a lifetime . I may be mad . . but I don't own a gun . . and wouldn't want to have the responsibility in owning one anyway . If you don't like C/W . . that's fine . . we got RAP, BeatBox, Bach and Judas Priest here too . I can even hum a little if that works to sooth your angry breast .	SurferJoe46 (51)
560978	2007-06-22 07:43:00	I converted the price from NZ$ to US$ and this home is about $629,000 US . . and that's just too high! Did nobody notice the obvious mistake? $NZ629,000 is just $US474,000 SJ . It may not alter the sticker shock very much for you, but remember NZ is small and they are not building any more land here so there is real competition for city housing . You can still buy much cheaper housing if you go out of town too, like up to 60% cheaper, and a small city apartment can be had for less than $NZ150,000 while an inner-city carpark can go for up to $NZ100,000+ . From what I recall, Chez SJ is well out in the wops and far from the madding crowds, so you'd expect a lower price, and the same applies here . I bought my hose 25 years ago and it has appreciated at 4 times the rate of inflation, which makes it a really solid investment, though my kids will probably benefit from that more than I will . My next home will probably be nicely decorated, but very small and without windows or doors . :( Cheers Billy 8-{)	Billy T (70)
560979	2007-06-22 12:07:00	I bought my hose 25 years ago and it has appreciated at 4 times the rate of inflation, which makes it a really solid investmentFrom Mitre10? :lol: ;)	Greg (193)
560980	2007-06-22 18:28:00	Did nobody notice the obvious mistake? $NZ629,000 is just $US474,000 SJ . It may not alter the sticker shock very much for you, but remember NZ is small and they are not building any more land here so there is real competition for city housing . You can still buy much cheaper housing if you go out of town too, like up to 60% cheaper, and a small city apartment can be had for less than $NZ150,000 while an inner-city carpark can go for up to $NZ100,000+ . From what I recall, Chez SJ is well out in the wops and far from the madding crowds, so you'd expect a lower price, and the same applies here . I bought my hose 25 years ago and it has appreciated at 4 times the rate of inflation, which makes it a really solid investment, though my kids will probably benefit from that more than I will . My next home will probably be nicely decorated, but very small and without windows or doors . :( Cheers Billy 8-{) Reality check for me: I told that many, not most, Americans will travel for 2 to 4 hours to work each way . . . but the money's gotta be good or they could just save the time and expenses of driving that far with a lower paying job and a less than 3 mile commute . Knowing that youse guys live on a narrow slice of tectonic upheaval, makes me wonder if commuting is really necessary or likely anyway . I look at GoogleEarth and see that cross-island commutes even if one worked on one side and lived on the other, are not so out of the normal or ordinary here . Would a NZ-er go that far to work? I'm not saying a North-South commute here . . . just an East-West one to both extremes . How far out in the sticks would one have to go to get a decently-priced home? Would an American consider a commute from CHCH to, say . . . . Hokitiki or Nelson be considered crazy? How about from Wellington to New Plymouth? Are the roads good enough to use them as a freeway-like route? Dunedin to Milford Sound looks hard to accomplish with no real good straight shot between them . . . . . but there might not be work in either of them anyway . . . they are very small dots on the map . How about Wellington to Picton/Blenheim . . . is there a ferry? There should always be work near docks and shipyards, and that tends to keep the real estate housing values a little low too . Is that a lake at Taupo? Are the homes there expensive? From what I recall, Chez SJ is well out in the wops and far from the madding crowds, so you'd expect a lower price, and the same applies here . Yes . . but we are a DEMAND bedroom community for LA and San Diego, not to mention all of Orange County with vast arrays of tech industries and service companies too . People are trying to live here to get their kids and families out of the city blight and ghetto-like attitudes of LA and even Riverside . I know people who live in Palm Springs ('way around the other side of the mountain from here) . . . and work all the way in Los Angeles downtown . . . they commute on a daily basis, 5-days a week and they are very happy to get home at 10PM on Fridays when they leave at 3PM from work . They also make really big money . That's a 280 mile per day commute . There's a 7 hour commute home for them on "get away day" Fridays . . which is when the freeways pack up with campers, motorhomes and rv-ers on the way to the deserts and the Colorado river for booze, broads, booze, water sports, booze, bikinis and booze . . Then they do it all again the next week . It kills them slowly . They are not alone either . We live here in a centrally-located area . . too far from LA to feel the really bad effects except for the smog and tv and radio stations . We are too far from San Diego to be the "neat" people, and too far from Orange County to even bother with them and their attitudes . In our little triangle valley ( . city-data . com/city/Hemet-California . html" target="_blank">www . city-data . com) we are neatly situated where we can take advantage of the cities, oceans, beaches and still consider any of those as ½ day-trip items . We have train tracks, but I swear that I've only seem or heard a train on them maybe 6 times since I moved here in Nov 1991 . Our train station has been converted into a museum anyway . ( . city-data . com/picfilesv/picv9526 . php" target="_blank">www . city-data . com) We have an airport ( . myafd . com/airport/HMT" target="_blank">www . myafd . com) . . but it's very small with no tower . I live at 1500 feet altitude at the base of some mountain resorts, the deserts of Palm Springs, the charm of lakes and a few streams (vernal) and out of the general passageways of tourists and freeway flyers . . we have no freeways through our towns as they are at least 15 miles away and we are therefor not too accessible by commuters . We get big city products and services and big city stores and restaurants, yet smaller and less hectic lifestyles than they . That is changing however .	SurferJoe46 (51)
560981	2007-06-22 22:24:00	Hi Joe. Interesting thread as I've stayed a couple of times with a friend in Phoenix and enjoyed some desert time. Re Taupo.... enter Lake Taupo NZ in to Google. Biggest remains of a volcano on earth and all below ground level. The amount of debris thrown out when it went off is absolutely mind boggling. Keep up the good work.	Scouse (83)
560982	2007-06-24 15:56:00	TY	SurferJoe46 (51)
560983	2007-06-24 17:27:00	jeez a SEVEN hour commute ?.......you got to be nutty.....or extremely well paid......cant really imagine that many nz'ers doin that.....we think a 1 and half hour commute is PLENTY .....as for many of the suggested commute from/to destinations you mentioned for nz.....well the roads are NOT generally 'motorway' quality at all .......they are generally well sealed but its quite difficult to find a straight bit of road here........the roads have LOTS of corners and theres MANY hills specially down south and those hills are STEEP......also in the winter you have severe snow to contend with and often many if not most of the roads are closed......	drcspy (146)
560984	2007-06-24 21:49:00	Rats! Mental pictures are all messed up with the concept that anyone in the South has snow! Seems so backward to me to think that way . OK . . here's an offer: Anyone who falls out of an aircraft while traveling over Southern California, let me know and we'll take a cook's tour of the places I know and think are off the beaten path for tourists to see . Let me know . Swimmers too can take advantage of the offer . . . I'll even pick you/them up and bring you to my place as a starting place of your vacation . If anyone wants to try driving here, roll the windows up real tight and hit the beach at full speed . . . keep the wheels turning .	SurferJoe46 (51)
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