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Thread ID: 80364 2007-06-20 06:33:00 NZ Newspaper Advertisements For Homes SurferJoe46 (51) PC World Chat
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560967 2007-06-20 20:25:00 SurferJoe46:
The prices in your area seem tempting at first glance, but if you work out the commuting costs, and the daily time spent at it, a person working in Auckland would soon be better after buying locally. Your locality is also sadly deficient in local volcano sites. They are not cheap to install. 		R2x1 (4628)
560968 2007-06-20 21:38:00 Its Auckland. Close to downtown.


DO a search for Eastern SOuthland instead.

I have 4 bdrms, 2 loos, 130sqm, porch, big deck, 1/4 acre, garage, carport, all made of rimu and it cost $95000. :D 		pctek (84)
560969 2007-06-20 22:36:00 house prices in the nelson area are getting crazy - I had an aunt (dead now) who lived in an old house in a nice part of nelson, all day sun etc, 1/4 acre section, only a 3 bedroom, 1 bathroom, really needed a refurbish, that sold as is for over 650,000.:yuck: wratterus (105)
560970 2007-06-20 23:57:00 SurferJoe46:
The prices in your area seem tempting at first glance, but if you work out the commuting costs, and the daily time spent at it, a person working in Auckland would soon be better after buying locally . Your locality is also sadly deficient in local volcano sites . They are not cheap to install .

AH! But I never did those commutes . . . not like they do now anyway .

My longest commute while living here was 15 minutes, and about 10 miles . . and I earned well in that job .

The people who make the long drives are usually yuppie-left-overs from the 80's who need four cars, a yacht, a three story home and a mistress in Orange County .

One does not have to go far from home if one likes to work with neighbors in a service capacity . . . not flipping burgers either .

There are a lot of tech jobs here too . Cable splicers, computer geeks and techno-freaks all work and can pretty much name their earnings .

If you wanted to commute to Orange County or Los Angeles downtown, you can get jobs that pay $200,000 ($150,000 NZ) a year but they gotta buy gas and eat tranquilizers .

Nope . . no active volcanoes, but we got bubbling geothermal hot springs and earthquakes .

Maybe we can whip up a good old virgin tossin' into the magma for you . . . provided we can find a virgin and some magma . :blush:

We got in about 20 minutes driving time:


1) mountains and mountain communities
2) deserts, both high- and low-deserts with their differing climates and environments . . the high ones get a lot of snow . . bet ya didn't know that!
3) forests with big trees
4) housing and employment
5) serious emergency systems and hospitals, firefighters and air-support for medical and forestry defense

We got in 45 minutes to 1 hour:


1) Palm Springs (can I say more?)
2) Disneyland (well . . . maybe 1:15 away)
3) Big Bear Lake resorts, Jenks Lake and others that are like Swiss-Bavaria w/ski areas and water)
4) The Pacific Ocean . . . in Oceanside, near San Onofre (OK, 1:30)
5) Serious snow in season
6) Serious deserts with Yuccas and mesquite and snakes, tarantulas and coyotes .
7) Wrightwood or Mountain Center, where "The Flintstones" rock-formations backgrounds were filmed .

We got in 2 hours away:


1) Los Angeles (actually about 1:45)
2) Hollywood and freaks on Sunset Boulevard
3) Crestline and serious ski resorts
4) San Diego, California and Tijuana, Mexico
5) The Salton Sea (Largest salt water lake in the US in California)
6) Torrey Pines on the Pacific cliffs (our side of the Pacific Ocean)
7) Los Angeles Harbor and San Pedro shipyards
8) Santa Monica Beach and pier

We get in 3 hours to:


1) San Simeon or El Refugio beach
2) Las Vegas
3) The Colorado River and Nevada Beach Resorts
4) Yuma, Arizona . . . but it's pretty hot .
5) Tecate, Mexico (great Mexican/German beers)

In 4 to 5 hours:


1) Bishop, California . . but you gotta drive fast to get there by then . . this is the South-most area (on HWY-395) of the inland side of the High Sierra Mountains and the jumping off place for trout and trout and did I say trout? Meet me here in the middle of August and I'll take you on a trout safari to blow your mind .
2) Pismo Beach or Morro Bay . . . near where "The Birds" was filmed .
3) Entryway to Death Valley, the lowest below sea-level place in the US
4) seriously near Reno, Nevada or actually in Phoenix, Arizona if you drive moderately slow .
5) well past Mount Whitney Portals, The contiguous 48 state's highest mountain . (Alaska is separated from us by . . . er . . what's the place . . . oh, yes . . Canada, and Hawaii is in the Pacific somewhere, so they don't count here) .

6-8 hours gets you to:


1) the Eastern state line of Arizona/New Mexico or well into Utah's Southwestern panhandle
2) The Bishop Loop . . . the "getting pretty good" trout fishing areas East of Yosemite National Park, and just a little East of The Donner Pass and well North of Manzanar, the Nisei-Japanese/American internment camp from WW-II .
3) The Grand Canyon in any of the three states it is in .
4) Lake Tahoe, in the crook of California and Nevada .
5) just to the very outermost outskirts of Shasta Lake .
6) Reno, Nevada . . quite a bit past it really .
7) My other place in Snowflake, Arizona .
8) Markleeville, California, where I have a cabin reserved for three days of trout fishing on the Carson River as it flows through California to the East side of the John Muir Wilderness, North above Yosemite and South of Lake Tahoe . The Carson River starts in Carson, Nevada .

If I pick you up anywhere along the way, we will leave from there (above^) and then on to Missoula, Montana to visit my son, and then to Albuquerque, New Mexico to visit it for the first time, and then to Snowflake, Arizona to see my other property, and then back to the Walker and Carson rivers for more trout .

The round-trip is over 3,000 miles and there's gonna be camping, cabins and roadside fishing all along the way . Bring many changes of underwear and socks .

Sit down; buckle up and keep your eyes open . It's pretty here . ;) 		SurferJoe46 (51)
560971 2007-06-21 01:28:00 Maybe we can whip up a good old virgin tossin' into the magma for you...provided we can find a virgin and some magma.
Why would you want to toss a girl child into the magma 		KenESmith (6287)
560972 2007-06-21 01:42:00 High property prices merely create the illusion of wealth - the reality is unsustainable debt.
Auckland has too much urban sprawl for the population, land and building prices are too high (mainly due to monopolies in building products), and the public transport system is grossly inadequate (to praise it) - sustainable - definitely not, the bulk of the population are not highly paid yuppies and just cannot afford to aspire to good housing at a reasonable price - for young people trying to start off it must be unbelievably tough.
I left Auckland two years ago for Brisbane - the locals here complain about property prices, commuting, transport gridlock - they don't know they are alive - Auckland is smaller. considerably ,more expensive, and a good public transport system a pipe dream, I live about the same distance from the Brisbane CBD as Howick was from Auckland's CBD - excellent train service every 20 minutes and less than half an hours journey to the centre of the city, and it costs a lot less than the cost of an Auckland bus journey of over an hour did two years ago. 		KenESmith (6287)
560973 2007-06-21 01:43:00 Didn't see Mohave in that list Joe but I suppose Yuma/Death Valley achieves it . I really like the eastern California/Arizona desert area although I've only meandered through once . The desert is a real moonscape, quite startling in its stark beauty .


Thanks for the update on US homes . The price of housing here has overshot fair value . A house used to cost 3 years wages . Now it is 6 years - and a lot more than that in some places . Weirdly, NZ house prices have passed European and US prices when considered on the local wages - and ultimately it is the amont of money a family can afford which sets house values .

What has happened is that we had a long period of slow stagnant house price growth, then the NZ economy picked up in 2001 . People started to spend and upgrade .

Then we had a large immigration flow - 100,000 people (?) whichj in a small country put pressure on housing .

On top of that, people started to jump on the house bandwagon pretty much buying at any price and goi ng to the extreme edge of affordabilty .

And that's where we are today .

Some people are going to fall off soon but I don't think there will be widespread sales or bankruptcies . 		Winston001 (3612)
560974 2007-06-21 01:55:00 Didn't see Mohave in that list Joe but I suppose Yuma/Death Valley achieves it . I really like the eastern California/Arizona desert area although I've only meandered through once . The desert is a real moonscape, quite startling in its stark beauty .


Thanks for the update on US homes . The price of housing here has overshot fair value . A house used to cost 3 years wages . Now it is 6 years - and a lot more than that in some places . Weirdly, NZ house prices have passed European and US prices when considered on the local wages - and ultimately it is the amont of money a family can afford which sets house values .

What has happened is that we had a long period of slow stagnant house price growth, then the NZ economy picked up in 2001 . People started to spend and upgrade .

Then we had a large immigration flow - 100,000 people (?) whichj in a small country put pressure on housing .

On top of that, people started to jump on the house bandwagon pretty much buying at any price and goi ng to the extreme edge of affordabilty .

And that's where we are today .

Some people are going to fall off soon but I don't think there will be widespread sales or bankruptcies .

A lot of 'baby boomers' have purchased houses to sell when they get to retirement, which they are currently renting out . The rent they get wouldn't be covering the interest loan repayments, but they a relying on the capital gains, and the the can offset the loss againest their personal income . This means that over the next five years I think we wil start to see a lot of houses coming onto the market a the baby boomers need to cas up, maybe even sooner if the tax laws change . However people may be able to get around the tax laws by setting up a Limited Liability company . 		robbyp (2751)
560975 2007-06-22 03:47:00 There are a lot of tech jobs here too.
If you wanted to commute to Orange County or Los Angeles downtown, you can get jobs that pay $200,000
We got in about 20 minutes driving time:
deserts,
We got in 45 minutes to 1 hour:
Serious deserts

We got in 2 hours away:
Los Angeles
Hollywood and freaks

We get in 3 hours to:

Las Vegas
Arizona..

6-8 hours gets you to:


Whats this? Some kind if immigration ad?

I hate deserts.
I hate gun mad yanks.
I hate Country and Western.

America would be one of the last places on Earth I'd live.

Houses looked pretty expensive to me.
And 6 to 8 hours driving here would get you into the ocean.

You think big is cool, Russia wins. 		pctek (84)
560976 2007-06-22 04:09:00 OK..it's a mobile home, but the differences in prices are astounding! and I hate campervans/mobile homes. Scouse (83)
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