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Thread ID: 80506 2007-06-25 11:36:00 Interesting perspective on climate change johcar (6283) PC World Chat
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562929 2007-06-28 23:15:00 Let us read b4 commenting,one does like to be reasonable.I was merely following the time-honoured tradition of never letting facts get in the way of opinion.:D Tony (4941)
562930 2007-06-29 02:02:00 I'm neither a meteorologist or a statistician, but I suspect the difference is that the short term is predicted by actually looking at the weather, while the long-term is done using statistical and other methods that don't rely on the vagaries of short-term weather changes. I haven't read Muriel Newman's article, but it sounds like she is making the common mistake of confusing weather (short-term) with climate (long-term).

Exactly. While I liked and respected Augie Auer, he was a meterologist, not a climatologist. Not that he was nescessarily wrong in being a climate change skeptic - he was entitled to his view, but weather is a current phenomenen, climate is centuries and millenia wide and shows up as trends.

One of the confusing things about climate change is that there are points on the globe where cooling is occurring. Looked at in isolation this suggests an impending iceage. However the totality of change for the whole planet indicates warming.

So sell that sea-side crib and move uphill a block. :D
Winston001 (3612)
562931 2007-06-29 05:26:00 Global warming will more than likely trigger another ice age. The information is in the link I posted. zqwerty (97)
562932 2007-06-29 05:29:00 Hmmm. I watch the "conservationsists" shooting elephnats and so on in Africa because there are "too many". Seems to me they are shooting the wrong animal.Is an elephnat a very small elephant with a pointed trunk? Tony (4941)
562933 2007-06-29 05:58:00 Being back in Ch Ch,we could do with a bit of global warming down here. Cicero (40)
562934 2007-06-30 03:46:00 Good point made about climate change predictions being made via computer modelling and making the point that climate 'experts' can't even predict short term climate, so how can we rely on long term guesses having any more than a 50% chance of being correct .



Actually, often it is easier to predict long-term trends than short-term .

For instance, my financial situation goes up and down each week, but long term, I am predicting that I will be mortgage-free .
decibel (11645)
562935 2007-06-30 04:58:00 Ah, an n ACT party member. A.K.A the "If big business says there's no problem, there is no problem" party. After all, they were right with the whole telecommunications thing weren't they? V1sta (6614)
562936 2007-06-30 05:24:00 [QUOTE=Winston001;564950]Ok, there are various problems with carbon . Our industrial lifestyle releases huge quantities very suddenly (in geologic time), from oil and coal which were previously locked up within the earth .

Carbon can form inorganic compounds, the most well known being CO2 . This is a greenhouse gas when it accumulates in the atmosphere, trapping warmth within the atmospheric envelope .

However, what is often overlooked, is organic carbon which enters and unbalances the foodchain . This happens to the greatest extent in the oceans and is largely unseen day to day . Plankton (algae) blooms are an example .

Carbon isn't good or bad - it is just a problem for us when too much gets into our environment . If you were algae or a eucaryote ( . santafe . edu/%7Edirk/welcome/eucaryote . html" target="_blank">www . santafe . edu)


If all human beings stopped breathing that would reduce CO2 gases . Each time I exhale CO2 will be emitted . Forget inhaling as oxygen will be sucked out of the atmosphere . Only 20% though as unlike plant life I do not suck nitrogen through my feet .

Now to the Whales whom use Plankton as food .
Save the whales . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .

And for some . Forget using a pencil . It has carbon in it .

Waits for Sue Bradford to smack me in case I release more gases . Or shove a cork in perhaps?
Sweep (90)
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