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Thread ID: 80449 2007-06-23 13:39:00 America's Cup 2007 Greg (193) PC World Chat
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562010 2007-06-24 02:31:00 TNZ did challenge alinghi heading into mark three alinghi were 180m ahead and two thirds up the course TNZ closed that gap to 14m now that is fast for our boat. Also if you looked at the on screen graphics on virtual eye TNZ was the fastest boat with there knot speed of 9.5 and above at every mark, the only thing is TNZ had to sail further distance cause alinghi was forcing us out to the right hand layline. A wind shift 10mins after the start to the left is what cost us the lead which we head by 50m after the start.
TNZ will come back tonight firing on all cylinders and it will be very close.
Hitech (9024)
562011 2007-06-24 02:41:00 Damn hope so. I was confident our boat and crew were better. Perhaps we lacked a bit of nav skills, a la last challenge. Greg (193)
562012 2007-06-24 03:28:00 Damn hope so. I was confident our boat and crew were better. Perhaps we lacked a bit of nav skills, a la last challenge.

Nav skills? Kiwi's lost and unable to navigate in Auckland harbour? I guess we really deserved to lose the last cup then.
beeswax34 (63)
562013 2007-06-24 04:08:00 Damn hope so. I was confident our boat and crew were better. Perhaps we lacked a bit of nav skills, a la last challenge.

We didn't lack any nav skills in the last challenge Greg, we lacked sailing time due to the designers having too much time designing the boat right up until the last minute which didn't leave the sailors anytime to get out and test the boat to get familiar with it, hense all the breakages. This time we have a round the world sailor (Dalton) leading the team and they have spent a lot more time testing both boats (hense the polished crew work). I am pretty sure that tonight you will see ETNZ take the racing to Alinghi who were trying to avoid a street fight tacking duel in favour of a boat speed drag race.
winmacguy (3367)
562014 2007-06-24 05:09:00 I couldn't agree more winmac alinghi are too much relying on their boat speed to win this cup, where as TNZ are relying on crew work, nine times outta ten crew work wins. Hitech (9024)
562015 2007-06-24 06:19:00 Yes, its only one race and it seemed to be that early windshift.

I think TNZ will be competitive in each race. Lets hope so. But then again Luna Rosa were competive in each race but that lost five of them !

Don't forget Dean Barker won the start as we had wanted the right hand side.

Regards

Digby
Digby (677)
562016 2007-06-24 11:08:00 We didn't lack any nav skills in the last challenge Greg, we lacked sailing time due to the designers having too much time designing the boat right up until the last minute which didn't leave the sailors anytime to get out and test the boat to get familiar with it, hense all the breakages. This time we have a round the world sailor (Dalton) leading the team and they have spent a lot more time testing both boats (hense the polished crew work). I am pretty sure that tonight you will see ETNZ take the racing to Alinghi who were trying to avoid a street fight tacking duel in favour of a boat speed drag race.


Unfortionately the Alinghi boat is the newest Americas Cup class boat that has been built, and it is almost a new generation type of boat, with improvements over TNZs boat. Supposedly it took 1 minute off the other Alinghi boat in a downwind testing leg, and against TNZ on the downward legs it gained a lot of metres.Alinghi are a very polished unit, and their boat definately isn't slower than TNZs boat. They also have some of the best crew, and double the budget of TNZ. TNZ have done really well so far, but I think we will need a lot of luck to win the cup off Alinghi.
robbyp (2751)
562017 2007-06-24 11:13:00 I heard that too. I think the trick will be to watch for the wind shifts and force Alinghi into a tacking and gybing duel to stop them building up speed up or down wind since both boats are pretty even up wind. Alinghi is about 1m a minute faster down wind I think. winmacguy (3367)
562018 2007-06-24 11:16:00 Alinghi is about 1m a minute faster down wind I think.

Which is actually very good.
beeswax34 (63)
562019 2007-06-24 11:30:00 I heard that too. I think the trick will be to watch for the wind shifts and force Alinghi into a tacking and gybing duel to stop them building up speed up or down wind since both boats are pretty even up wind. Alinghi is about 1m a minute faster down wind I think.

That worked well against Prada, but I think the Alinghi boat is also very quick at tacking, as TNZ lost ground when they tried a tacking dual against Alinghi on the first leg. Certainly TNZ need to do something different, maybe some false jives like prada did to us to trick Alinghi to jive.
robbyp (2751)
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