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| Thread ID: 80551 | 2007-06-27 07:47:00 | Science or Religion? What do you believe? | radium (8645) | PC World Chat |
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| 563613 | 2007-07-02 13:07:00 | God, if it existed would not be interested in the tomfoolery and antics indulged in by a bunch of evolved apes, except perhaps some of the art. | zqwerty (97) | ||
| 563614 | 2007-07-02 13:22:00 | Please stand up all those who believe their existence is entirely a random event, without purpose or reason, and whose existence does not matter one iota. Well if it hadn't been for WW2 I would not be here as my mother was originally engaged to my fathers brother. So first there had to be my parents getting together and then one particular egg had to be fertilized by that one sperm so the odds of being in this world are probably in the billions and you can't convince me that a creator arranged all that just for my benefit which makes it a fairly random event. The purpose or reason is procreation. Apart from those close to me my existence does not matter one iota. | mikebartnz (21) | ||
| 563615 | 2007-07-02 13:29:00 | Also:- "Do unto others as you would be be done by." Sorry if I offended any person here. I think it is actually " Do unto others as you would have done unto you" which is something I heartily agree with. |
mikebartnz (21) | ||
| 563616 | 2007-07-02 20:09:00 | ... which makes it a fairly random event.Was it? As an aside, anyone ever read a book called The Celestine Prophecies? |
Myth (110) | ||
| 563617 | 2007-07-02 21:33:00 | Very good apart from this,where vague arrives....... I also know with the experience of life that comes with age, education and extensive travel that sometime in the not too distant future, whether we like it or not, there is a high probability that our social system may be subject to sustained threat from a religious culture alien to our western way of life, and we may be forced to pay a high price not to lose it. Undermining the foundations of our society is hardly the best way there is of ensuring its survival. |
Cicero (40) | ||
| 563618 | 2007-07-02 23:45:00 | I think it is actually " Do unto others as you would have done unto you" which is something I heartily agree with. Whatever. This idea has been stated by different persons in different ways over a few years now. en.wikipedia.org Then we go to the other idea:- "When in Rome do as the Romans do." Now this is another one I agree with for various reasons. If I go to another country and become a thief then I should know there is a possibility that a hand could be cut off. If I try dealing drugs in another country I may get a death penalty. I have been over the speed limit in NZ but would not expect drastic measures as a result. And whom here could say with any degree of honesty that they NEVER went over 50 Kph where that was the limit? 51 ? anyone? Then we go to Voltaire who was supposed to have said, "I disagree with what you say but I will defend with my life your right to say it." Not. IMHO. If what is said is not the truth. We can not prove or disprove either way. Back to toleration of others and their beliefs? This, hopefully, is a debate? |
Sweep (90) | ||
| 563619 | 2007-07-03 02:06:00 | Well, waddaya know. I guess this proves it. God has his own MySpace page.\blog.myspace.com | JackStraw (6573) | ||
| 563620 | 2007-07-03 02:59:00 | I try to respect all different kinds of religions and beliefs but some times it can be so hard .... I have to keep reminding myself that if you do come in contact with some preaching up stuck idiot its probably just them and not to take it as a whole. I have several bad instances with religions ..... Once I was out on the town with my sister, I was about 17 and it was around about 5 -6 am and were sitting on the side of the road (very high heels and sore feet), having a good old laugh, trying to get a cab after having a very long night out we were on the main street in Hamilton (Victoria) and this guy, about 20ish came up to us holding a bible and starting going on about how disappointing we were to lay our life out like this drunk on the road and how we should be doing more with our lives instead of turning to the bottle and drinking and how we were being disrespectful ....... #1 I'm sure your not suppose to judge others #2 what right did he have to come up and criticize us #3 and the funniest one of them all, What made him think we were drinking. Cause 2 sisters went out to town and were having a laugh? After I pointed out to him what a self righteous B*****d he was and the fact we hadn't touched a damn drop of alcohol we laughed him on his merry little way. Again, was probably just him but I have a feeling it was not. I try to respect religions but for those who think life is about suffering for what someone or others did for us before our time, pfffffffft. We only have 1 life and we should damn well live it to the full. | never-u-mind (6500) | ||
| 563621 | 2007-07-03 04:02:00 | I believe Science and religion can co-exist - the evolvement of our scientific knowledge over the past two centuries, has discredited the Bible's story of creation, and shown it to be a fable, but we must accept that story for what it is, an attempt by an early civilisation to explain a phenomena of which they had no real knowledge. The continuing evolution of scientific knowledge will challenge much of what we may wish to believe, and this does require man to be able to re-evaluate his beliefs in the face of new knowledge. The existence of God or otherwise, has a verdict of not proven from both sides of the argument, and is basically a matter of faith for the believers, and the sceptics should not merely write off the deeply held convictions of the believers as superstitious nonsense. All of us in western societies should recognise the large contribution that the Judeo-Christian ethic has made to our society and laws, much of what is taken for granted, such as the sanctity of human life,these tenets were adopted into our developing social systems, that gave us the liberal Christian based Western societies we have the fortune to live in today. We should also recognise that our western societies today are at risk, and should not be taken for granted, there are many reactionary forces both external and from within that could result in terrible strife, not only for the current generation but also future generations. There is a definite need for tolerance and live and let live, between individuals, countries and cultures, but we should be aware that this is a two way trade, and not turn the other cheek to those who wish to bring our downfall. |
KenESmith (6287) | ||
| 563622 | 2007-07-03 04:35:00 | I wonder if the above applies to the inquisition Christians. | Cicero (40) | ||
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