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| Thread ID: 80551 | 2007-06-27 07:47:00 | Science or Religion? What do you believe? | radium (8645) | PC World Chat |
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| 563603 | 2007-06-29 07:22:00 | ID is NOT a theory. ID is a relgious belief. It cannot be tested in way shape or form. Evolution is a scientific theory that has been tested and refined now for a long time, measured against what is found in the world and our developing understanding of the building blocks of life. There is a world of difference and it is typical religious fudging to attempt to put ID besides evolution as a "theory" with "scientific" basis so as to offer people a "choice" of theories. My point exactly it doesn't matter how you art' it up ID its still religious belief. Science is always discovering ways things work and is open to correction, if a scientist gets something wrong he welcomes the new finding. You never see this happening with religion. Also there’s a Penn & Teller Bullsh*t episode on the bible where they pick out parts in the bible where it states you should stone your child to death if they are disobedient or stone to death somebody who betrays god and worships another god and many other cruel testaments. It’s funny how they don't preach these chapters in church. |
radium (8645) | ||
| 563604 | 2007-06-29 08:48:00 | I find the idea of Blair turning catholic quite amusing. Yes, Blair's converting to Catholicism. In other news. George Bush wants to convert to a truck, like that man on Transformers |
V1sta (6614) | ||
| 563605 | 2007-06-29 10:45:00 | Bush said that God told him to invade Iraq and this guy is a priesdent. People of that status should not act on any fictional belief. |
radium (8645) | ||
| 563606 | 2007-06-30 21:54:00 | If you have the time check out the following link, they are long videos but there are some facinating discussions from an impressive list of speakers all experts in their fields. beyondbelief2006.org beyondbelief2006.org This is a critical moment in the human situation, and The Science Network in association with the Crick-Jacobs Center brought together an extraordinary group of scientists and philosophers to explore answers to these questions. The conversation took place at the Salk Institute, La Jolla, CA from November 5-7, 2006. |
Safari (3993) | ||
| 563607 | 2007-07-01 07:14:00 | Thanks for the link. will check it out. Did you know that 45% of all Americans believe in God. Thats Shocking! |
radium (8645) | ||
| 563608 | 2007-07-02 03:24:00 | Evolution is one THEORY. so is ID. Why should everyone choose Evolution? Just cuz it's the accepted theory doesn't mean everyones gotta go along with it. Well my surprise was that were 2 people who choose ID. The fact they beleive its a theory that means God made the universe etc is pretty fantastic in my eyes. Wouldnt you rather have proof? Each to their own but i have seen no proof/evidence for ID to be factual in any way or form. But yes, people do believe you say, good on them. Not this kiwi though. |
rob_on_guitar (4196) | ||
| 563609 | 2007-07-02 06:19:00 | Well my surprise was that were 2 people who choose ID. The fact they beleive its a theory that means God made the universe etc is pretty fantastic in my eyes. Wouldnt you rather have proof? Each to their own but i have seen no proof/evidence for ID to be factual in any way or form. But yes, people do believe you say, good on them. Not this kiwi though. X 2 |
radium (8645) | ||
| 563610 | 2007-07-02 12:34:00 | The debate in this thread has revolved round belief in the Old Testament story of creation versus evolution. It is stretching the credibility of modern man to accept the Bible story of Creation in the face of Scientific evidence. However this evidence does not disprove the existence of a divine intelligence that "masterminded the creation of the universe and life, just as much as the Bible story proves it. However, it should equally stretch ones credibility to suggest that creation was an entirely unplanned long term series of random events that resulted in the world and life as we not it today. Please stand up all those who believe their existence is entirely a random event, without purpose or reason, and whose existence does not matter one iota. If this is so we should all live life 100% for the moment and to hell with the consequences, because our individual existence is merely an accident of nature. I recall a statement made back in 1956 to our Form 6 class, during a Divinity Lecture, by our Headmaster,who was a Church of Scotland Minister, a decorated soldier in WW2 (a Lt Col in the Highland Fusiliers - DSO and MC) and a former Scottish International Rugby player. What is a Christian? "A Christian is someone who tries to lead ones life by Christs example." ( Quite a large number who those who profess to be Christians would be disqualified if measured against this definition) A delightfully simple definition, no dogma that must be strictly believed, no denomination specified - no compulsory lip service attendance at religious gatherings - simply that life and behaviour were lead by a set of ethical standards in Christ's example. Today it is fashionable to deny adherence to religion, especially the Christian variety, and to live for the moment, it is the easy cop out, but I would suggest to the sceptical, that it was the Judeo Christian ethic that shaped our western society, our laws, our social standards and our tolerance to accept others. We live today in one of the freest, benevolent and liberal societies in history, and we should be mindful of our historical heritage, and cherish the lifestyle and benefits of our society, because there are serious threats to our way of life from far less tolerant and benevolent social/religious groups who see Western Societies as examples of moral decay, decadence and evil, that are worthy targets for destruction, as evidenced by the terrorist attacks in American and European cities. I cannot say whether a God exists, I can neither prove or disprove it, simply I do not know beyond any reasonable doubt. However, I am vain enough to believe my life and that of my family and fellows does have some purpose, that might not always seem very clear, and that our existence as a species is more than an just accident of nature. I also know with the experience of life that comes with age, education and extensive travel that sometime in the not too distant future, whether we like it or not, there is a high probability that our social system may be subject to sustained threat from a religious culture alien to our western way of life, and we may be forced to pay a high price not to lose it. Undermining the foundations of our society is hardly the best way there is of ensuring its survival. |
KenESmith (6287) | ||
| 563611 | 2007-07-02 12:50:00 | Unlike others I have an open mind. I believe in a supreme being. Whom you believe in is over to you. No matter what religion, sect, faith you have I will tolerate you so long as you do not affect my family or friends in an adverse manner. |
Sweep (90) | ||
| 563612 | 2007-07-02 13:04:00 | Also:- "Do unto others as you would be be done by . " Sorry if I offended any person here . |
Sweep (90) | ||
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