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Thread ID: 80551 2007-06-27 07:47:00 Science or Religion? What do you believe? radium (8645) PC World Chat
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563593 2007-06-28 22:24:00 Religion is highly incompatible with just about everything, especially other religions.

While you are there Met,perhaps you tell us how blowing ones self up relates to religion
Cicero (40)
563594 2007-06-28 23:10:00 2 people actually chose ID? I thought this was a no - brainer question... rob_on_guitar (4196)
563595 2007-06-28 23:22:00 2 people actually chose ID? I thought this was a no - brainer question...

Evolution is one THEORY. so is ID. Why should everyone choose Evolution? Just cuz it's the accepted theory doesn't mean everyones gotta go along with it.
wratterus (105)
563596 2007-06-29 00:12:00 Right. Go with the masses. An obviously long thought out, reasoned choice.

Islam is worldwide too.


And 84% of sheeple believe in miracle cures too.

But then religion and logic never did have any connection.
Not really. As I've explained, Christianity is at my convenience. All my life I have lived in Christian societies, and for me to live in an Islamic society I would need to migrate to other places that I am not used to, and have no intentions to go to. The same applies to every other religions.

Furthermore, I still like the life teachings and morals Christianity offers young children. Besides, there's Santa, Easter, and all that crap. Children needs something like that to enrich their childhood.
qazwsxokmijn (102)
563597 2007-06-29 02:56:00 Hey... I am just stating out my opinion. I am not explicitly stating that one must have religion in order to be human. Personally, I am not that religious after seeing the effects that it has on one.

You're not "that" religious after seeing the "effects that it has on one"?

This is a kind of an either or thing, you know. Either you think there is something out there that is responsible for all of "creation", or you accept that religion is a simply a concept created by humans to help explain their world and assert control over society in times when there was no rational explanation for why crops fail and the moon goes across the sky.

And your opinion, as "stated" was that "Without religion, there wouldn't be ethical boundaries as to what we can do with science", which in essence attempts to claim for religion not just the moral ascendancy over science, but the status of controller of the moral centre of science, when in point of fact religion spends most of its interaction time with science attempting to undermine it and undo centuries of scientific advancement through the propigation of false, stupid and childish ideas like creationism and its not-very-well-disguised siblings Intelligent Design and Creation Science.
Biggles (121)
563598 2007-06-29 03:02:00 Evolution is one THEORY. so is ID. Why should everyone choose Evolution? Just cuz it's the accepted theory doesn't mean everyones gotta go along with it.

I think the world was created by a giant space chicken that laid an egg which turned into the world. There you go, that's a theory too. And it has 100% as much credibility in terms of how you can test that theory as ID does.

ID is NOT a theory. ID is a relgious belief. It cannot be tested in way shape or form. Evolution is a scientific theory that has been tested and refined now for a long time, measured against what is found in the world and our developing understanding of the building blocks of life. There is a world of difference and it is typical religious fudging to attempt to put ID besides evolution as a "theory" with "scientific" basis so as to offer people a "choice" of theories.
Biggles (121)
563599 2007-06-29 04:10:00 I think the world was created by a giant space chicken that laid an egg which turned into the world.

Come on Bruce that's completely wrong. Everyone knows that the universe was sneezed out of the nose of a creature called the "Great Green Arkelseizure", who's followers live in perpetual fear of a time they call the "coming of the Great White Handkerchief".
Mackin_NZ (6958)
563600 2007-06-29 04:46:00 Come on Bruce that's completely wrong. Everyone knows that the universe was sneezed out of the nose of a creature called the "Great Green Arkelseizure", who's followers live in perpetual fear of a time they call the "coming of the Great White Handkerchief".

Bah! The Arkelseizure is heresy!! Heresy I say! The Great Space Chicken may well carp on you for uttering such things.

Besides, the world is kinda shaped like and egg, so that's scientific proof.
Biggles (121)
563601 2007-06-29 05:37:00 No, I choose Christianity because it is a worldwide religion. This makes it easier as Christianity does teach good lessons for life, such as be kind to others, respect others, etc, and these teachings are expressed throughout their childhood in schools, playgroups, etc.

Raising children to preteens as a Christian is not poison. It doesn't have to be. It's poison if you let it to be. The Muslim religion - the senseless martyrs - that's poison - because whoever taught these martyrs Islam let it be poison.

If you raised a child as Muslim correctly, that child will not bomb itself in buses or trains. A true Muslim is one who strongly clings to Islamic teachings, but has respectable tolerance towards different religions. The same applies to every other religions - even atheism, if you call that a religion.

Of course, I won't make my children a hardcore Christian - you know, reading the bible every night, etc....I will just do what my parents did to me and my brothers - we go to church many Sunday mornings or Saturday evenings, but my parents did not shove Christianity down our throats. By the time I was 13, I began to realise how the state of the world contradicts what god supposedly say he feels about us. That's how I started to doubt the Christian god's mercy and kindness, and turned to atheism.

Sure, I can just do all the moral teachings to my children - but why do that when our society can do that? I was raised Christian, and I still like the morals Christianity teaches us - I just don't like the idea of worshiping a logically non-existing god.

I'm not going to raise my children christian, because all my facts and views coming from looking at a rather small sect of christians, the IRA. Nope, I'm not going to look at the numerous peaceful christians. The ones just down the road just want to kill me. They brought me cookies once, but I knew their plan, they were laced with cyanide and/or gunpowder! But I knew what to do after going to the "Churches and Miracles" conference at the local Synagogue. I threw them back and chased them down the road with my Shrutis and Koran in hand. They never came back, so my life is now safe. Thanks IRA, you've taught me all I ever need to know about christians!

Christianity, from what I can gather, teaches no form of morals whatsoever that can't be gotten elsewhere. Presumably by taking your kids to church, they'll be read to from the bible. The same bible that preaches the death penalty for such horrendous crimes as wearing mixed grain clothing and being gay. Christians. Providing good morals since the conversion of the Jews.
V1sta (6614)
563602 2007-06-29 05:41:00 I find the idea of Blair turning catholic quite amusing. Cicero (40)
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