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Thread ID: 80551 2007-06-27 07:47:00 Science or Religion? What do you believe? radium (8645) PC World Chat
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563543 2007-06-27 10:24:00 Lol what. This is not the definition of ID by any means. That's the definition of Creation. ID is a much broader topic.
Yeah. I just noticed that too.

Intelligent Design somewhat differs from Creationism. Creationism is total non-sense, in my opinion. Creationism is based on faith, and faith alone. Intelligent Design actually involves some science in it, although I personally say there is no credible evidence for Intelligent Design.
qazwsxokmijn (102)
563544 2007-06-27 10:26:00 Lol what. This is not the definition of ID by any means. That's the definition of Creation. ID is a much broader topic.


Ok but it still isn't Evolution.

Quoted by: Penn jillette Intelligent Design is just a new term to try to justify faith based creation.

It still trys to justify some intelligent entity must have created the complexity of the world.

Which to me is still saying there is a God
radium (8645)
563545 2007-06-27 10:44:00 Errrr What???

en.wikipedia.org

www.ncseweb.org

skepdic.com

It sure is not Evolution.

The theroy of ID is God based design
Both Intelligent Design and Creationism revolves around the belief that a god, or an 'Intelligent Designer' created the universe.

However, there some differences difference between the two.

Creation in this context refers to the specific supernatural act of creation. Strict Creationism is a definition created to avoid confusion between Strict Creationism, which completely denies theistic evolution, whereas the general creationism may involve the credibility of theistic evolution.

Intelligent Design is probably just a branch of Creationism, and ID does accept supernaturalism, although not as strong as Strict Creationism. Things that are the same between SC and ID is that both beliefs say evolution is not anything but false. Both tend to think life is explained through an intelligent entity, or god, instead of a natural process such as natural selection.

Evolution which was started by Charles Darwin is a theory that has been extensively backed up with truly convincing and logical evidence. ID on the other hand say, in the most basic level, that even simple things such as bacteria have extremely complicated structures (which all living things do, but I won't go into there) that they say could not have been constructed by nature alone.

Creationism tends to be associated with highly religious explanations, such as the book of Genesis, etc. As we all know more often than not religion is highly incompatible with science.
qazwsxokmijn (102)
563546 2007-06-27 10:52:00 Both Intelligent Design and Creationism revolves around the belief that a god, or an 'Intelligent Designer' created the universe .

However, there some differences difference between the two .

Creation in this context refers to the specific supernatural act of creation . Strict Creationism is a definition created to avoid confusion between Strict Creationism, which completely denies theistic evolution, whereas the general creationism may involve the credibility of theistic evolution .

Intelligent Design is probably just a branch of Creationism, and ID does accept supernaturalism, although not as strong as Strict Creationism . Things that are the same between SC and ID is that both beliefs say that evolution is not anything but false . Both tend to think life is explained through an intelligent entity, or god, instead of a natural process such as natural selection .

Evolution which was started by Charles Darwin is a theory that has been extensively backed up with truly convincing and logical evidence . ID on the other hand say, in the most basic level, that even simple things such as bacteria have extremely complicated structures (which all living things do, but I won't go into there) that they say could not have been constructed by nature alone .

Creationism tends to be associated with highly religious explanations, such as the book of Genesis, etc . As we all know more often than not religion is highly incompatible with science .


Nice post . I agree . :thumbs:

I should have made up a seperate poll option for ID, but I was quick to but it in the same boat as Creationisum . Cause they both involve a creator .

And what about Noah's Ark, how can anybody believe that?
radium (8645)
563547 2007-06-27 10:54:00 As we all know more often than not religion is highly incompatible with science


Religion is highly incompatible with just about everything, especially other religions.
Metla (12)
563548 2007-06-27 10:55:00 Ok but it still isn't Evolution .

I never even made the slightest implication that it was .

There are more than two theories for the beginning of life .
roddy_boy (4115)
563549 2007-06-27 11:00:00 Religion is highly incompatible with just about everything, especially other religions.
Well, yeah, you're right.

That is why I hate people like Flanders from The Simpsons. I don't hate them as a human being, but I hate them for how they can try to preach their beliefs on atheists.
qazwsxokmijn (102)
563550 2007-06-27 11:03:00 There are more than two theories for the beginning of life.

My point is:

There either is a Creator or there isn't?
radium (8645)
563551 2007-06-27 11:05:00 My point is:

There either is a Creator or there isn't?Depends on what side of the fence you are standing :)
Myth (110)
563552 2007-06-27 11:07:00 There's the problem, Its Kreator, not creator.

And there definitly is a Kreator, I had a couple of their albums 20 odd years ago, violent skate punk crossed with speed metal if memory serves...

anyhow.

http://www.kreator-terrorzone.de/

en.wikipedia.org


I guess that kills that debate.
Metla (12)
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