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Thread ID: 97921 2009-03-04 07:56:00 School Networking Problems Blam (54) Press F1
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753391 2009-03-04 08:33:00 Okay - different approach - What security software is on the laptops, is it all the same and issued on each students laptop, and if so what is it.

One easy way to test if its the software on the laptops, introduce a Non school laptop to the Network, see if the connection problem affects that.
Thats how I test wireless networks when theres a problem like this - if my own laptop wont connect its a signal transmitting or security problem, unless you need to log into a server to authenticate.
wainuitech (129)
753392 2009-03-04 08:37:00 What sort of wireless access points are you using? Are they ones with the Cisco wifi authentication system behind them (i.e. you connect, then the first time you visit a webpage it makes you log in)? somebody (208)
753393 2009-03-04 08:42:00 What encryption are you using??

This is what you've done right ? (technet.microsoft.com)

Also as above

You do not need to configure a network security key for the WPA2-Enterprise, WPA-Enterprise, and 802.1X security types because the key is determined automatically when Windows Vista performs wireless authentication.
Speedy Gonzales (78)
753394 2009-03-04 09:11:00 What sort of wireless access points are you using? Are they ones with the Cisco wifi authentication system behind them (i.e. you connect, then the first time you visit a webpage it makes you log in)?

Yep-Bluesocket authentication

Problems with that too-even with the Bluesocket certificate-firefox doesn't work properly with it, you logon to the server, windows pops up saying you're logged in, but can't browser internet. What SHOULD happen is, after you logon to the server, a firefox boc will open asking for username+password again. Then you click ok-and internet works
FF works for some students, for others it doesn't

WT-Prob not security software, as the school puts mcafee on all the school laptops, but I installed Avast!, same problems though.
Some people have the non school laptop-and so far I haven't seen any with networking issues-yet, but I still can't be sure its the school laptops/software, as less than 1% of the students use non-school laptops so its hard to be sure.

Personally, I just reckon its Vista+This type of network authentication causing problems

XP+School Network=Fine
XP+Home Network=Fine
Vista+Home Network=Fine
Vista+School Network=Problems???

Speedy-Yep, thats how people connect it manually, but its configured to connect automatically, but it doesn't!!

Blam
Blam (54)
753395 2009-03-04 09:18:00 I just reckon its Vista+This type of network authentication causing problems From the examples given that sounds like the problem.

Just a curious question:
experienced students aid the computer technicians at our school in maintaining students laptops and fixing them.
WHO is actually in charge of the security setting up of the network, routers, allocating passwords, etc. OR is a just a big free for all to who ever happens to have a bit of knowledge.
wainuitech (129)
753396 2009-03-04 09:23:00 The qualified school technicians. About 6 of them

6 people managing a network with up to 1600 people connecting to it at one time

And they have to fix laptops at lunch/morning tea

Crazy if you ask me!

PAL tutors are guys next door, voluntary students that fix peoples laptops at lunchtime. Most of us are typical geeks:p
We get "points", each point worth 4 NZ dollars, and we can use the points at ascent, dse, and some other shops


We don't get to manage the network or anything-techies do that.

But I'm just trying to find a fix for this, as technicians are having a hard time trying to fix this. Actually....I'm not even sure if they're trying......

Blam
Blam (54)
753397 2009-03-05 08:01:00 Looking in the event log of affected laptops-seems that there are many errors related to the tcp/ip stack.

I will run the netsh int ip reset command tomorrow and see if it fixes the problem
Blam (54)
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