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| Thread ID: 80968 | 2007-07-11 03:42:00 | Kiwisaver for over 65 - oldies revolution | coldot (6847) | PC World Chat |
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| 568023 | 2007-07-11 12:21:00 | Yes. Which is probably why statistics indicated most people aren't. :D |
Sweep (90) | ||
| 568024 | 2007-07-11 12:37:00 | I refuse to get into the politics of envy. In any scheme there is bound to be a transition period. In the long term everyone will have had the opportunity to join. To be completely brutal, it seems to me that you are saying that even though I made no provision for my old age starting 30-40(?) years ago when (a) it would have cost very little per annum to have accumulated a nest-egg and (b) the economic conditions were such that it was much easier to do so (no student loans, convertible child benefit, etc.) then I should be subsidised now. So here is another. Let us be brutal if you wish. Try District Heath, ACC, and etc. A certain person may get an operation even though this person is in prison and convicted. Just because this person was found guilty does this mean we collectively deny medical help? Your thoughts on this will be noted. |
Sweep (90) | ||
| 568025 | 2007-07-12 06:54:00 | "... what is a certain Cullen doing with a massive surplus", Sweep asks. The "surplus" is not money which can be spent. Brian Easton (www.eastonbh.ac.nz/?p=842) says this about it:This savings-before-investment figure is an accounting notion, frequently referred to as “The Budget Surplus”, even though almost all of it has been spent. |
Graham L (2) | ||
| 568026 | 2007-07-12 08:46:00 | But I thought we are in a successful economy. We have been following these right wing a*rseh*les rules for years, when are we going to see the benefits? | zqwerty (97) | ||
| 568027 | 2007-07-12 09:02:00 | But I thought we are in a successful economy. We have been following these right wing a*rseh*les rules for years, when are we going to see the benefits? At about the same time as we see the benefits of Max Bradford's electricity market reforms. |
decibel (11645) | ||
| 568028 | 2007-07-12 09:54:00 | "Fascism should more appropriately be called corporatism because it is the merger of state and corporate power.” - Benito Mussolini In a free market, prices are determined by what people will pay, no more no less "That’s true of extortion as well. And kidnapping. And blackmail. And in certain respects anarchy. The free market is not a good thing. Because it doesn’t take into account (a) what people can pay, and (b) that not everything should come with a price tag attached. Social responsibility (not to be confused with - or deliberately smeared as - communism) is something that isn’t factored into your free market philosophy - and social responsibility is something that’s been all too sadly lacking from far too many of your business decision makers. 250 years of robber baron greed, corruption and inequity are proof of that." |
zqwerty (97) | ||
| 568029 | 2007-07-12 10:17:00 | For goodness sake, how did we get here from Kiwisaver?:confused: | Tony (4941) | ||
| 568030 | 2007-07-12 10:51:00 | Because it is likely you are being conned yet again. Kiwisaver will be another big banking scam from your corporate masters in disguise as a benevolent savings scheme for the workers and anybody foolish enough to invest. | zqwerty (97) | ||
| 568031 | 2007-07-12 11:23:00 | For goodness sake, how did we get here from Kiwisaver?:confused: Kiwisaver may be OK. There again it may not be. You have the right to choose. Choose wisely. YOUR CHOICE. Make your choice. A little like map reading etc. Do I turn left or right at this fork in the road? And I chose to get to the intersection using a certain vehicle or even on foot. Now map reading can be certain if you have the correct map and you know where you came from and where you want to get to. If the Map changes during your journey what do you do next? |
Sweep (90) | ||
| 568032 | 2007-07-12 11:49:00 | " . . . what is a certain Cullen doing with a massive surplus", Sweep asks . The "surplus" is not money which can be spent . Brian Easton (www . eastonbh . ac . nz/?p=842) says this about it:This savings-before-investment figure is an accounting notion, frequently referred to as “The Budget Surplus”, even though almost all of it has been spent . You may consider the treasury whom seem to get things wrong at times . . Whoops . Made a mistake . |
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