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Thread ID: 81583	2007-08-01 03:07:00	Vista not a priority for business	winmacguy (3367)	PC World Chat

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574912	2007-08-02 03:03:00	We have seen this before with XP. Business did not want to know about XP at launch stating it was bloated and slow and they will stick to 2000/98 bla bla. Two years in and it got real traction and the rest is history. Also keep in mind there are 10,000's of legacy apps used by corporates that need testing and possibly patching for Vista, this can take several years for any large organisation.	Battleneter2 (9361)
574913	2007-08-02 03:21:00	I certainly remember hearing similar stories when XP was launched when a lot of people were more than happy with Win2k which is actually still a very good system. This time how ever, people have had 5 years to get used to XP in the work place while Vista was being developed and moon beams were being promised. Add to that the fact that Apple has come a long way since OS X was first released in early 2001 (about 6 months before XP), Linux has had a number of years to mature and be put through its paces in the server room and on the desktop which means that IT managers now have more than one potential OS to consider when they upgrade. By the time some IT managers get around to upgrading XP will be 7 or 8 years old and Leopard will have been out for 1+ years and more companies will be exploring Linux while MS decides what is going to be in the final build of Windows 7.	winmacguy (3367)
574914	2007-08-02 04:04:00	I certainly remember hearing similar stories when XP was launched when a lot of people were more than happy with Win2k which is actually still a very good system. This time how ever, people have had 5 years to get used to XP in the work place while Vista was being developed and moon beams were being promised. Add to that the fact that Apple has come a long way since OS X was first released in early 2001 (about 6 months before XP), Linux has had a number of years to mature and be put through its paces in the server room and on the desktop which means that IT managers now have more than one potential OS to consider when they upgrade. By the time some IT managers get around to upgrading XP will be 7 or 8 years old and Leopard will have been out for 1+ years and more companies will be exploring Linux while MS decides what is going to be in the final build of Windows 7. I will concede I always liked XP as a replacement for 98 which was horrid and i was thrilled to ditch 98/95. However 2000 vs XP was a different story, many IT professionals cried they will never change as there is no advantage. There is even less incentive to go to Vista for Business now, however I would be very surprised is the migration does not follow a similar path for similar reasons. For the record I dual boot Vista and hate the bloated piece of poop, just don't buy into its failure.	Battleneter2 (9361)
574915	2007-08-02 04:17:00	By winmacguy.... "You would still subtract the original number of XP "revertees" from Vista to get a truer number of the versions sold." No, winmacguy. Even if only one person out of the 60M was using Vista and the rest had either reverted to XP or purchased a copy of XP to replace Vista, that is still 60M copies sold. Might show as a boost in XP sales? As I said, I have reverted to XP for various reasons. This does not reduce the 60M down to 59,999,999. It stays at their figure of 60M (Assuming they haven't lied on the sales number) I still have my copy of Vista which I paid good cash for. Ken :badpc:	kenj (9738)
574916	2007-08-02 04:34:00	No, winmacguy. Even if only one person out of the 60M was using Vista and the rest had either reverted to XP or purchased a copy of XP to replace Vista, that is still 60M copies sold. Might show as a boost in XP sales? :badpc: Possibly or at least a continuation of XP sales. I am sure that MS has "shipped" 60 million copies although I would argue that this figure wouldn't be 100% of what has actually been on sold through the distribution chanels at this stage.	winmacguy (3367)
574917	2007-08-02 06:41:00	I wonder if IBM have installed XP SP2 (www.infoworld.com/article/04/08/09/HNdontinstallxp_1.html) on their 400,000 desktop systems yet. They might not be an early adopter of Vista, either.	Graham L (2)
574918	2007-08-02 07:06:00	I am pretty sure that they have been big contributors to Linux if my memory serves me correctly...??	winmacguy (3367)
574919	2007-08-02 07:17:00	There is even less incentive to go to Vista for Business now, however I would be very surprised is the migration does not follow a similar path for similar reasons. For the record I dual boot Vista and hate the bloated piece of poop, just don't buy into its failure. This is what one large corporate in the US has decided to do computerworld.com	winmacguy (3367)
574920	2007-08-02 07:45:00	Just looked up a Gartner report which said that 250 million PCs were sold in 2006 . And they were looking at a bit more than that this year . So if say 125 million PCs have been sold world-wide so far this year, so Vista is not doing very well at only 50% of that ! I know some will be Macs . But also some of those sales would be upgrades . regards Digby	Digby (677)
574921	2007-08-02 09:31:00	Just over 1.76 million Macs for the last quarter which is their most for a quarter ever.	winmacguy (3367)
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