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| Thread ID: 81722 | 2007-08-05 02:16:00 | Stating the obvious... | johcar (6283) | PC World Chat |
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| 576761 | 2007-08-07 00:37:00 | Youth crime has increased since power to do anything about it was removed from the police.(are you old enough to be able to compare different generations?) Behavior in schools is reported to be getting out of control since authority to discipline was removed.Look at the recent reports on violence against teachers. That sure as hell wasn't the norm when I was at school, what about you? (how old are you anyway?) Now parents have been given the same treatment.(are you a parent?) Expect the problems to get worse, The foundations have been laid and each major change has been directly reflected in each generation, The ones that come through knowing they don't have to give a damn about what the cops think, the schools think or what their parents want are going to run rampant. |
Metla (12) | ||
| 576762 | 2007-08-07 00:49:00 | Spot on Metla. Why are some people so blind to the obvious. www.nzherald.co.nz Rising violence in schools 'due to lax discipline' All of these young people have entered a system of education and society where discipline and responsibility are being replaced by the politically correct nonsense of childrens' rights," said says Mr McCoskrie. "It is significant that as schools have removed corporal punishment, schools have become more dangerous. School yard bullying by pupils on other pupils and staff is now the new form of 'corporal punishment' in schools. He said behaviour of pupils would will continue to deteriorate for "as long as we tell them that their rights are more important than their responsibilities." |
Safari (3993) | ||
| 576763 | 2007-08-07 00:51:00 | Youth crime has increased since power to do anything about it was removed from the police.(are you old enough to be able to compare different generations?) First, where are your references? and , yes, I am old enough Behavior in schools is reported to be getting out of control since authority to discipline was removed.Look at the recent reports on violence against teachers. That sure as hell wasn't the norm when I was at school, what about you? (how old are you anyway?) 55, how old are you? and, again, where are your references? Now parents have been given the same treatment.(are you a parent?) Yes, I am a parent, I have a lovley daughter in here late teens who I have never hit and she is doing very well thank you. Oh, references? Expect the problems to get worse, The foundations have been laid and each major change has been directly reflected in each generation, The ones that come through knowing they don't have to give a damn about what the cops think, the schools think or what their parents want are going to run rampant. Er, refer..... |
JackStraw (6573) | ||
| 576764 | 2007-08-07 01:01:00 | Quite the opposite. In fact I was a supporter of Bradford's bill. May I respectfully suggest both you and Metla have the decency to read and, at least try, to understand my posts before you make these assumptions and accusations. Then you would know Sue's bill is nothing on the abuse we are talking about. |
rob_on_guitar (4196) | ||
| 576765 | 2007-08-07 01:20:00 | Then you would know Sue's bill is nothing on the abuse we are talking about. What exactly do you mean? I see no point in having an argument here but I would like to point you to some interesting and informative reading on the subject. Feckless Solutions publicaddress.net World Corporal Punishment Research http://www.corpun.com/ AMERICAN ACADEMY OF PEDIATRICS: Corporal Punishment in Schools aappolicy.aappublications.org Corporal punishment of children Spanking: All points of view www.religioustolerance.org Facts About Corporal Punishment www.stophitting.com IS CORPORAL PUNISHMENT AN EFFECTIVE MEANS OF DISCIPLINE? www.apa.org ROBIN’S TRUE STORY AND TESTIMONY By Robin Warnes www.nospank.net And finally. With reference to Safari's post here is a quote from Russell Brown's Blog on the Herald article. www.nzherald.co.nz "Really, is Family First the new Maxim? The religious lobby group treated as if it has science on its side? And why does it get its logo on the Herald's story conveying its claim that the withdrawal of corporal punishment in schools is the reason for an increase in violence in recent years? What the story doesn't tell you - and what newspaper stories never tell you -- is that at least some of the increase in the raw number of violent incidents in schools is a consequence of an increase in school rosters; a flow-on from the mini baby-boom of the early 1990s. It's clear enough that there is cause for concern - if violence in schools isn't new, assaults on teachers are intolerable. But the claim that it is a consequence of the cessation of corporal punishment isn't supported by any evidence of which I'm aware." Russell Brown, Jul 31, 2007 11:43 From; The cane and the strap publicaddress.net |
JackStraw (6573) | ||
| 576766 | 2007-08-07 01:22:00 | For the moment Lefty PC rules,with luck the pendulum will swing back soon. | Cicero (40) | ||
| 576767 | 2007-08-07 01:23:00 | So teachers now get assulted in school because the school role is larger? Rubbish. |
Metla (12) | ||
| 576768 | 2007-08-07 01:32:00 | Wow Mets, you must be a fast reader. ;) Here's another one for ya. www.archivist.f2s.com |
JackStraw (6573) | ||
| 576769 | 2007-08-07 01:37:00 | For the moment Lefty PC rules,with luck the pendulum will swing back soon. For the moment HUMANITY rules as far as the law goes and pendulums do not rely on luck they rely on physics. Bad metaphor. :D |
JackStraw (6573) | ||
| 576770 | 2007-08-07 01:51:00 | For the moment HUMANITY rules as far as the law goes and pendulums do not rely on luck they rely on physics. Bad metaphor. :D Right mate for questioning me,I am about to set Met onto you,so be prepared. Cor,questioning Cicero,this is intolerable. |
Cicero (40) | ||
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