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Thread ID: 98310 2009-03-19 18:44:00 BACKUP, Backup, Backup your PC pctek (84) Press F1
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757925 2009-03-20 21:47:00 Blimey CYaBro - just had a look at that Shadowprotect, sounds like the same one Here (store.storagecraft.com) -- Ouch :eek: at the price - esp the IT subscription - thanks but no thanks - not paying $3500 US / year, even the home user version is very expensive compared to other software available.

Haha no, the desktop version is only about $150 from memory.
The server versions (Standard Server and SBS) are around $1,000 which seems to be pretty normal for server backup software.
The IT version doesn't cost that much if you are a reseller :D
I can get the IT version for around $900-$1000 and get a free server version that I can sell to a client so the IT version basically costs nothing :punk
CYaBro (73)
757926 2009-03-20 22:15:00 I've recently set up ShadowProtect SBS for one of my customers. It is good software, but I still prefer Acronis products.

I assumed that Microsoft would put something in the home server licence agreement saying you can't use it for businesses. I will have to look into that for a few of my clients.

I use robocopy to back up to an external drive & I've set up most of my smaller clients to back up to flash drive using a robocopy script. As long as they don't have too much data, that is a perfect solution - cheap, fast & easy. Because flash drives are so cheap, I can usually get them to buy 3 or 4 & always have an offsite backup.
Greven (91)
757927 2009-03-20 23:38:00 I assumed that Microsoft would put something in the home server licence agreement saying you can't use it for businesses . I will have to look into that for a few of my clients .
NOPE! there is nothing directly that says you cant use it in a business . In fact when that exact question was asked in the WHS forum several times - and MS's reply was - nothing stopping you, just limited functions of a regular server .

WHS is Server 2003 with LOTS of the server functions removed, and home user functions installed - basically it is a file server, media server, back up server, that gives you remote access without having to know all the ins and outs of how to set up server 2003 .

It has a 10 user License, meaning 10 user accounts, a normal Server 2003 you have to pay for each license / bundles of licenses, Eg: 5 users/ 10 users/ 100 users etc . There have been lots of plugins made that allow it to do different things ( to many to mention here) .

But the closest items relating to EULA and a business are:


Server Software . You may install and use one copy of the server software on a single server . You may create up to 10 accounts (“User Accounts”) that can access and use the server software . You may reassign a User Account at any time from user to user provided the reassignment does not result in more than 10 User Accounts at any one time

Windows Home Server Connector - You may install and use the Windows Home Server Connector software on up to 10 of your personal computers . Each personal computer on which you install this software must be on the same local area network as your server software . You may use this software only with the server software .

Active Directory - You may not use the server software as a domain controller or otherwise make use of DCPromo . exe . You also may not join the server software to any Active Directory domain .

Terminal Services - You may only use Terminal Services functionality to the extent required to manage the server software in Remote Administration Mode . You may not use Terminal Services for any other purpose .

Server Roles - You may not use server roles other than the roles that are already enabled during the server setup process .

Use the software for commercial software hosting services
If you want the full EULA PM me and I'll link it .

naming it Home Server is easier and a marketing name- that way they can make the software for the average home user . When you set it up they also allow you to create a free domain name for remote access .

It used to be yournameofchoice . homeserver . com but I think its now changed to yournameofchoice . live . com

If you go by the name alone then millions of people are breaking the EULA in XP HOME --- How many companies use windows XP HOME in an office ???
wainuitech (129)
757928 2009-03-21 00:45:00 cYbro and Wainuitech: I am guilty of not backing up and certainly want to after a recent calamity. I have read the thread and wonder if the best way for me to go is to download SyncBack. I have checked their sight and apart from the freebie SyncBack, there is also SyncBackSE. For the novice what would be your recommendation for use. My main computer is a laptop. I do not have an external hard drive but have various pen drives that i guess could be used. Any comments you have would be appreciated. Thanks smurf (6545)
757929 2009-03-21 01:05:00 I have checked their sight and apart from the freebie SyncBack, there is also SyncBackSE . . I do not have an external hard drive but have various pen drives

Syncback free is fine .
Pen drives are OK too . But you could invest in an external drive for added safety . . . . .
pctek (84)
757930 2009-03-21 01:20:00 Thanks pctek........can you make a recommendation as to what external hard drive would be best given a limited budget....and are these things USB plug in to the laptop? smurf (6545)
757931 2009-03-21 03:16:00 You'd have to make decision on either to get the portable USB powered 2.5" ones or the larger, faster, 3.5" ones that require AC power.

Here's a 2.5" 160gb on special:
www.pcpacific.net

Blam
Blam (54)
757932 2009-03-21 03:38:00 The one Blam6 recommends has a Western Digital drive in it - the drive is what matters.
So any WD drive in an enclosure.

The 2.5" you need 2 USB ports to power them - the 3.5" ones have their own power plug.
Either or.........
pctek (84)
757933 2009-03-21 03:41:00 I have been using MS Sync Toy for a couple of years with no problem. Incremental backups take less than a minute once a week (more often if I've done something important/valuable). That is to an external HD that is permanently connected to the PC.
Once a month I do the same on a second external HD that lives in another part of the house.
I also keep really important stuff on a couple of U3 flash drives that travel with me.
Grimy (3041)
757934 2009-03-21 03:43:00 The 2.5" you need 2 USB ports to power them - the 3.5" ones have their own power plug.
Either or.........

Thats not quite true-most laptops/desktops these days can do it all from one USB port.

And another option would be eSATA or course, which is much faster than USB but not many laptops/desktops have it
Blam (54)
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