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Thread ID: 143981 2017-05-29 21:01:00 DPC_WATCHDOG_VIOLATION BSOD error DeSade (984) Press F1
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1435877 2017-06-13 01:33:00 So perhaps, to establish if this a software or hardware fault
you could try running a Linux live USB that automatically loads nvidea drivers
such as PCLinuxOS, just for a while and see if that crashes too.
If it does, that would suggest a hardware fault, if it does not, a software issue
I know this is a bit of mucking around for you but at least it would
eliminate hardware as an issue.
KarameaDave (15222)
1435878 2017-06-13 02:03:00 So perhaps, to establish if this a software or hardware fault
you could try running a Linux live USB that automatically loads nvidea drivers
such as PCLinuxOS, just for a while and see if that crashes too.
If it does, that would suggest a hardware fault, if it does not, a software issue
I know this is a bit of mucking around for you but at least it would
eliminate hardware as an issue.

I have no idea how to go about doing that.
DeSade (984)
1435879 2017-06-13 02:48:00 Yes I did

I have gone through 4 nVidia drivers through this issue.



uninstall the NV drivers completely.
Dont re-install the drv, just use the default VGA generic drv & see if it still crashes

IF the vid card/chip has a fault , it might run OK on the generic MS VGA drv (at a lower res)
Ive seen PC's & laptop that would crash when NV/ATI drivers installed, but OK on just the generic VGA drv: (vid hardware faults)

It may not even be that , just something to test

and
"I'm no expert in this but I hardly ever use the VPN."
If you have VPN software, it may be loading drivers/software/client/service , if you are using it or not .

Seriously consider a wipe & reload , & keep it clean till certain its stable.
1101 (13337)
1435880 2017-06-13 04:54:00 uninstall the NV drivers completely.
Dont re-install the drv, just use the default VGA generic drv & see if it still crashes

IF the vid card/chip has a fault , it might run OK on the generic MS VGA drv (at a lower res)
Ive seen PC's & laptop that would crash when NV/ATI drivers installed, but OK on just the generic VGA drv: (vid hardware faults)

It may not even be that , just something to test

Not much will run on it without the drivers, the resolution will be screwed up also.
Basically the computer will be pretty much unusable for the duration



and
"I'm no expert in this but I hardly ever use the VPN."
If you have VPN software, it may be loading drivers/software/client/service , if you are using it or not .

Seriously consider a wipe & reload , & keep it clean till certain its stable.

I have started investigating other solutions to this problem and will be removing this VPN for good shortly.
DeSade (984)
1435881 2017-06-13 21:33:00 Not much will run on it without the drivers, the resolution will be screwed up also.
Basically the computer will be pretty much unusable for the duration


yep, and thats what you do if you want to test things & start eliminating possible causes
or just stab away blindly in the dark
:)

or try another vid card (assuming its a PC)
1101 (13337)
1435882 2017-06-13 21:58:00 yep, and thats what you do if you want to test things & start eliminating possible causes
or just stab away blindly in the dark
:)

or try another vid card (assuming its a PC)

It is a PC but I can't just swap out cards with this one.

I will do this clear graphic run you suggest on Saturday, it is the only block of time I can fit it into.
DeSade (984)
1435883 2017-06-14 09:39:00 When you uninstalled the previous Drivers, did you simply use the uninstall options ?

If so that's not good enough.

The standard uninstaller leaves behind lots of the old entries, you need to FULLY rip everything out otherwise old left behind fragments can still cause a problem.

Download and unzip /run Display Driver Uninstaller DDU (Scroll down page for download locations) www.guru3d.com

Its best to run it in safe mode ( as it suggests) there is an an option when you run it to restart in safe mode.

Once it rips them all out completely, reboot, then you'll be running on default drivers as supplied with W10. Being W10 it will also download new graphic Drivers, unless the computer is not on the internet or they have been stopped.

Sometimes the drivers that are Downloaded through MS updates actually cause less problems than newer ones from nVidia.
wainuitech (129)
1435884 2017-06-14 09:54:00 When you uninstalled the previous Drivers, did you simply use the uninstall options ?

If so that's not good enough.

The standard uninstaller leaves behind lots of the old entries, you need to FULLY rip everything out otherwise old left behind fragments can still cause a problem.

Download and unzip /run Display Driver Uninstaller DDU (Scroll down page for download locations) www.guru3d.com

Its best to run it in safe mode ( as it suggests) there is an an option when you run it to restart in safe mode.

Once it rips them all out completely, reboot, then you'll be running on default drivers as supplied with W10. Being W10 it will also download new graphic Drivers, unless the computer is not on the internet or they have been stopped.

Sometimes the drivers that are Downloaded through MS updates actually cause less problems than newer ones from nVidia.

Ok I will do this on Sat along with 1101's suggestion.
DeSade (984)
1435885 2017-06-14 10:45:00 Hmm. How come we all have driver and other issues from time to time on our desktops, but almost none on our lappies? Is it just because (in my case a Toshiba) laptops are better designed? Hmm Greg (193)
1435886 2017-06-14 11:03:00 Hmm. How come we all have driver and other issues from time to time on our desktops, but almost none on our lappies? Is it just because (in my case a Toshiba) laptops are better designed? Hmm

I really wish I knew the answer to that.....
DeSade (984)
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