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Thread ID: 81879 2007-08-09 19:33:00 Private car sale - new WOF, etc? Morpheus1 (186) PC World Chat
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578767 2007-08-09 19:33:00 I'm looking at buying a car today, a private sale. Does the owner legally have to supply a new WOF - the TradeMe listing states the WOF expires in December.

I will get it AA tested, or tested by a mechanic, and I know that the ownership papers must be done at the time of sale. On TradeMe I can check to see if any money is owing for only a dollar.

Any other things I should be aware of?
Morpheus1 (186)
578768 2007-08-09 19:51:00 Private sale, WOF optional but how many other vehicle trades has the seller done? More than 6 in a year and he's classed as a dealer. PaulD (232)
578769 2007-08-09 20:46:00 To get around the December expiry, make it a condition of sale - he is to supply a fresh WOF before you part with your cash... johcar (6283)
578770 2007-08-09 21:08:00 Thanks guys. The new WOF seems reasonable. Hes not a dealer by any means.

The car is actually for my son who had his car stolen. He lives in Jaffaland and cannot be here when I do the ownership papers - does anyone know if I can put his name on the papers without him being here?
Morpheus1 (186)
578771 2007-08-09 22:29:00 The car is actually for my son who had his car stolen. He lives in Jaffaland and cannot be here when I do the ownership papers - does anyone know if I can put his name on the papers without him being here? Sure you can, Dealers often put your name on the papers when you buy a car. If there is a place to sign, just do the usual "your signature" p.p. [Your son's name] as secretaries have been doing since time began when signing letters for their bosses. It is a formal document, but not a legal "contract". If they turn you down, your son can get a new set of blank papers, sign them and post to you for completion.

If your gut feeling tells you it might be a good idea, I'd ask for a new warrant from a testing station, they could have used a "friendly" tester to get the last warrant, or in case something has failed since the warrant was issued.

Even the nicest and friendliest looking people can pull scams.

Cheers

Billy 8-{)
Billy T (70)
578772 2007-08-09 22:39:00 Sure you can, Dealers often put your name on the papers when you buy a car. If there is a place to sign, just do the usual "your signature" p.p. [Your son's name] as secretaries have been doing since time began when signing letters for their bosses. It is a formal document, but not a legal "contract". If they turn you down, your son can get a new set of blank papers, sign them and post to you for completion. No, you can not. It has to be the owners signature on the form, no pp or anything, also has to be the owners ID used.

The only way is for the son to sign it, if anyone else signs the form in thier name this is illegal...
The_End_Of_Reality (334)
578773 2007-08-09 22:41:00 Thanks Billy. If the mechanic check is OK, I'll ask them to do a WOF and pay for it as long as I have negotiated the asking price down a bit - most everyone does expect to haggle the price a bit.

David - well, I guess if I cannot put my son's name on the ownership papers, I can put my name and we can transfer it later. Dunno, will have to see what happens. It must be a common situation.
Morpheus1 (186)
578774 2007-08-09 22:44:00 If your gut feeling tells you it might be a good idea, I'd ask for a new warrant from a testing station, they could have used a "friendly" tester to get the last warrant, or in case something has failed since the warrant was issued.

Even the nicest and friendliest looking people can pull scams.

Cheers

Billy 8-{)

Unfortunitly taking a car to a testing station, doesn't mean that the warrant check is any better. I have had testing stations let things go through that shouldn't have.
plod (107)
578775 2007-08-09 22:59:00 David - well, I guess if I cannot put my son's name on the ownership papers, I can put my name and we can transfer it later. Dunno, will have to see what happens. It must be a common situation. Yes, you can put it in your name and transfer it later, but you can not sign as you if it is not going into your name... likewise with ID... It is a common situation, but unfortunately those are the rules set by LTNZ... The_End_Of_Reality (334)
578776 2007-08-10 10:09:00 David aka endofreality is correct. I asked at the Post Office and heres the deal: I cannot sign for my son as the sole owner, but I can put myself as the owner (and show them my ID) and then put my son as a joint owner. Then when my son comes to collect the car early next week, he can pay $9.50 to transfer ownership to him only. BTW I bought the car - except for a few not-so-major items, it tested fine. Going to the Post Office tomorrow morning. FWIW as an interesting aside, when I met the owner's wife it turns out that I knew her sister, and when I spoke with the owner's mechanic (to check when the cambelt was replaced), he knew my wife and her father. It can sometime be a small world, folks. ;) Almost forgot this bit: the owner lives on a dairy farm in the wop wops and by the time we arrived the petrol light came on, empty, so he kindly put in 10 litres without chargel and he had a hand drawn map showing how to short cut over to our friend's place who also live rural. Not only a small world, but a nice world. :) Morpheus1 (186)
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