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| Thread ID: 81867 | 2007-08-09 08:46:00 | Violence | Dally (6292) | PC World Chat |
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| 578654 | 2007-08-09 08:46:00 | If I punched someone unconscious in a pub when they weren't expecting it, I'm sure a prosecution for assault would follow. If I did it on a rugby field in front of thousands of witnesses and TV cameras apparently it is OK. Then you read in the papers that there is a problem of violent offending by todays youth. Go figure | Dally (6292) | ||
| 578655 | 2007-08-09 08:59:00 | Yep like that annoying ad: "Shower naked with men, whip animals, punch people", etc etc whatever else he lists, "Just call it sport". Annoys the hell out of me. |
pctek (84) | ||
| 578656 | 2007-08-09 09:09:00 | If I punched someone unconscious in a pub when they weren't expecting it, I'm sure a prosecution for assault would follow. If I did it on a rugby field in front of thousands of witnesses and TV cameras apparently it is OK. Then you read in the papers that there is a problem of violent offending by todays youth. Go figure If you punched the ref you probably would go to jail. |
CYaBro (73) | ||
| 578657 | 2007-08-09 10:07:00 | It's a contact sport. If you punched someone in a boxing match it's fine too. Surprising, huh? | roddy_boy (4115) | ||
| 578658 | 2007-08-09 11:17:00 | It's always surprised me too - about assaults on the rugby field. I think somebody has to make a complaint of assault before the assault is treated as a criminal assault. Pretty poor behaviour in a "professional sport" if you ask me. |
Deane F (8204) | ||
| 578659 | 2007-08-09 14:32:00 | Back in the seventies there was an interesting case, following violence at a rugby match at Twickenham. During a club match a Welsh international put the boot into another player on the ground. The incident was witnessed by a High Court Judge, who took the unprecedented action of swearing out a bench warrant against the offending player. The judge justified his action on the grounds that if it had happened on the street , the offender would be guilty of criminal assault, and it should be no different on the sporting field. The prosecution proceeded; unfortunately the worthy judge was a witness and couldn't hear the case, but the offending player was found guilty and fined quite heavily. There was an uproar in Rugby circles about the prosecution, but to my mind the judge was quite correct - there should be more of it. I have heard it said that Rugby in NZ accounts for the full time occupation of a 400 bed hospital - ie over 14,500 hospital bed days per annum. Nothing to be proud of - its meant to be a bloody game. |
KenESmith (6287) | ||
| 578660 | 2007-08-09 14:53:00 | its meant to be a bloody game.It is a "bloody" game. That's what often happens when people make physical contact with other people. I didn't see Ali Williams crying about it after he was taken off the field recently, all bloody with a broken jaw. | Greg (193) | ||
| 578661 | 2007-08-09 14:59:00 | There is nothing acceptable about gratuitous violence in sport, even contact sports, there are far from subtle distinctions between accidental sporting injuries and deliberate foul play causing injury, the latter is assault. | KenESmith (6287) | ||
| 578662 | 2007-08-09 16:25:00 | There is nothing acceptable about gratuitous violence in sport, even contact sports, there are far from subtle distinctions between accidental sporting injuries and deliberate foul play causing injury, the latter is assault.Then go play ping pong. Oh, sorry, you may get a bruise on your knuckle if you accidently hit the table. | Greg (193) | ||
| 578663 | 2007-08-10 00:24:00 | Greg, In my youth I played Rugby, but in those days deliberate physical violence against opposition players was not accepted as a feature of the game. When I was refereeing I made a point of penalising deliberate dirty play. I a club game I was refereeing in Christchurch in the mid sixties between 2 under twenties sides, I sent 3 players off in the first 10 minutes. I was thanked by one of the coaches at half time. His comment " maybe that will give them the idea that they are here to play Rugby not to fight" I have seen parents on the sideline encouraging 12 year old boys to put in the boot. There was a celebrated incident in Auckland where a Referee abandoned a junior club game because of violence, encouraged by parent spectators. I repeat there is no grounds for deliberate dirty play and violence on the sports field. That deliberate fouling of opponents and violence is OK in a contact sport should have no part in the game, is a crazy macho idea that has no place in the national sport, and it taints the national character. New Zealand is a violent society - you may not think so but the Kiwi record on homicides on a population basis is more than 4 times that of Australia, it is worse than most States in the USA, and the record of other crimes against individuals and family violence should be a national shame. I am certainly no wimp, I served as an officer in the armed forces for 22 years, and have both witnessed, and seen the long term consequences of extreme violence. If you want to fight, join the Army, preferably an Army that gets involved in real combat, not peacekeeping, that should cure you of any idea that violence is OK behaviour. |
KenESmith (6287) | ||
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