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| Thread ID: 81786 | 2007-08-07 06:38:00 | Warning! Do NOT Get Sansa Firmware Updates! | SurferJoe46 (51) | PC World Chat |
| Post ID | Timestamp | Content | User | ||
| 577583 | 2007-08-07 06:38:00 | Here it comes . . . and they want to "give" you a DRM-laced firmware update that LOOKS OK, SMELLS OK, but is just Windows DRM in disguise! :mad: Because the SANSA MP3 players all use WMA and WMA Secure (DRM) files now . This DRM thing is getting outta hand . . . . next . . to be infected . . . . your underwear drawer . :eek: I suspect that the iPods are going if not already gone that way by now too . . . Be Ye Ware! :mad: |
SurferJoe46 (51) | ||
| 577584 | 2007-08-07 06:40:00 | I suspect that the iPods are going if not already gone that way by now too... Be Ye Ware! :mad: Well maybe, but good thing I dont buy songs through Itunes Actually there havent been updates for either of these since Sept/Oct last year and sometime in 2004 or 5 for the other one |
Speedy Gonzales (78) | ||
| 577585 | 2007-08-07 09:01:00 | It's worth noting that Rockbox (http://rockbox.org/) runs on both ipods and sansa players (and a few others too). | Erayd (23) | ||
| 577586 | 2007-08-07 18:37:00 | Yeah but...I got a C240 (www.sandisk.com), and the Rockbox site says this: # SanDisk: Sansa E200 series (the R models are not supported) |
SurferJoe46 (51) | ||
| 577587 | 2007-08-07 23:53:00 | Ouch... | Erayd (23) | ||
| 577588 | 2007-08-08 11:10:00 | aarrrgh DRM is crap | Agent_24 (57) | ||
| 577589 | 2007-08-09 04:42:00 | AFAIK. DRM has to be encoded onto the audio track for that track to be "protected" If it is a "legal" track you would possess the "licence" to play that track. If the DRM is stripped from the track then it won't "look" for the "licence" (or in Joespeak) "license" and can be played. Joe's C240 Plays MP3, WMA, WAV and protected WMA DRM so it shouldn't matter that it gets an updated DRM. For it to be a problem then the update would have to see a "license" for all tracks and not just the DRM'd ones and require you to purchase licences for all your existing music. As it would be totally stupid for an equipment manufacturer to put these hurdles in place and make their product virtually useless, I can't see them doing it. On the other hand the RIAA and the MPAA are hard lobbyists and will push to keep their Dinosaur of a Cash Cow running. If we all reject this crap then maybe we will start to get Artists that want to perform and be creative rather than just "in it for the money" Artists that don't need a big budget push as the like of "the Spice Girls" and the rest of the korporate manufactured Pop garbage. [Rant/] |
JackStraw (6573) | ||
| 577590 | 2007-08-09 06:15:00 | AFAIK . DRM has to be encoded onto the audio track for that track to be "protected" If it is a "legal" track you would possess the "licence" to play that track . If the DRM is stripped from the track then it won't "look" for the "licence" (or in Joespeak) "license" and can be played . Joe's C240 Plays MP3, WMA, WAV and protected WMA DRM so it shouldn't matter that it gets an updated DRM . For it to be a problem then the update would have to see a "license" for all tracks and not just the DRM'd ones and require you to purchase licences for all your existing music . As it would be totally stupid for an equipment manufacturer to put these hurdles in place and make their product virtually useless, I can't see them doing it . On the other hand the RIAA and the MPAA are hard lobbyists and will push to keep their Dinosaur of a Cash Cow running . If we all reject this crap then maybe we will start to get Artists that want to perform and be creative rather than just "in it for the money" Artists that don't need a big budget push as the like of "the Spice Girls" and the rest of the korporate manufactured Pop garbage . [Rant/] You know I agree . . epecially with the keeping the RIAA and MPAA out of my machine . . . I just think that if we let ONE smidgen of DRM into our systems, ther question becomes: "How long before I have to DRM everything I own or I can't play it . " If SanDisk/Sansa wants me to install to make Mr . Bill happy (since it runs on WMP format,) then I see collusion in the ranks and a restrictions and requirements to need everything to run under the same gun . . WDRM/DRM . . . any security and digital signatures at all! No . . even if it would run, I don't want DRMs running my shows and files and checking for signatures . Let's make this a war cry . . . NO DAMN DRM! |
SurferJoe46 (51) | ||
| 577591 | 2007-08-09 06:21:00 | I suspect that the iPods are going if not already gone that way by now too... Be Ye Ware! :mad: On the contrary SJ, Apple is going the DRM free way as long as the music industry wants to follow suite. :) There are a number of artists that are DRM free currently on iTunes. |
winmacguy (3367) | ||
| 577592 | 2007-08-09 06:32:00 | Good to hear...a situation that is NOT done by any means I think..but good on Apple for that! | SurferJoe46 (51) | ||
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