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| Thread ID: 81976 | 2007-08-12 22:37:00 | Should the driving age be raised to 18 ? | Digby (677) | PC World Chat |
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| 580180 | 2007-08-14 08:13:00 | My first car was a Jappa :p 76 Mitsi Lancer (Colt). I got it up to 140km/h (accidentally of course), on a trip from Tauranga to Gore (1000 mile round trip). The only problem I had was the carby froze on the Desert Road (my model had no summer/winter switch, I didn't know that could happen :p) Did have a foray with Ford in later years (bought a Mk 1 Capri, ripped the 1300 out of it and threw in a Zephyr V6 :D) |
Myth (110) | ||
| 580181 | 2007-08-14 09:48:00 | My first car only lasted 2 months:annoyed: my first purchase from a second hand dealer. never again:lol: | rob_on_guitar (4196) | ||
| 580182 | 2007-08-16 21:47:00 | Right, To be honest,If the rest of the world jumped off a cliff I would indeed be keen, Cliff Jumping is always a bit of fun.Though I would perhaps have to find a higher cliff. In the first instance it would have to be a pretty mild cliff to convince the entire world to jump off it, and no doubt the pile of bodies would be higher then the cliff. Which makes me wonder if all the people in the world can all line up and jump off a cliff at a faster rate then we breed.....hmmmmm. And would we leave anyone behind to run the television networks?,All the billions waiting in line would have to be entertained somehow.Perhaps the first stage of the plan would require training millions of people to juggle? Anyway. I had my learners license for over a decade, Then they accidentally issued me a full.And I learned to drive at age 13...in a truck. Watch out, I drive daily. **** and GTFO u freakin' itard Jumping off a cliff was a figure of speech. Not meant to be taken literally. It means that just because other countries in the world have their driving age higher is not a reason for us to raise ours. Since when was this Planet Conformatron? Secondly, most countries that DO have higher driving ages - including England - have it that you have a learner's permit while you learn to drive then get your full. this allows you even less experience before taking on the responsibility of carrying passengers in your car, and you should be able to take passengers by the time you leave school - which is why we need a lower driving age - our system is tougher than other countries that have it at 18. Thirdly, people at age 18 can get alcohol legally and this means that they are more likely to get drunk while on a learner's license with not much driving experience and then they will be more likely to speed, breach their license conditions and do other silly things including killing themselves and others in a car accident. Fourthly, I have had my driver's education postponed for a year now because of medical conditions, and I see absolutely no reason why it should be postponed any longer because a bunch of a few demonic hoons like you seem to be finding it very difficult to lower their speedo to below 120 kph. The police are far too lenient and they should have a zero tolerance policy - you get caught speeding, you get your license suspended. Okay, maybe not if it was just 10 kph over the limit, you would just get a ticket, but any more than that, there goes your license - if you require a license for your job, eg if you live out in the what-whats and there's no bus or train or carpool to get you to work, or you are for example a courier who needs the car to deliver things or a builder who needs a van for his supplies, you could be issued with a worker's permit - you are only allowed to drive for employment purposes and your employer should be told immediately by Land and Transport what has happened and why. Finally, I don't like being told to get the f*ck out or to get stuffed and I also do not like being called names like freakin' itard. Die in a fire. |
Marion Wilson (12654) | ||
| 580183 | 2007-08-16 22:19:00 | Thank you Marion,you are the sweetest of girls. | Cicero (40) | ||
| 580184 | 2007-08-16 22:26:00 | John Wayne started as Marion Morrison. Just switching off User Signatures improves the language. |
PaulD (232) | ||
| 580185 | 2007-08-16 22:34:00 | John Wayne started as Marion Morrison. Just switching off User Signatures improves the language. Sure he died a few years ago,so that can't be right.? |
Cicero (40) | ||
| 580186 | 2007-08-17 01:20:00 | I learned to drive at 8. Living in the country I would drive cars and trucks on the farm helping load hay or vegetables. I had my car license the day i was 15, sat my written a week prior to turning 15. Truck license at 18. First car was an Austin A40 which could barely break the speed limit. Since cars were expensive then in relation to wages two of my Uncles used to share a car which at the time was not uncommon. Now in Auckland I am currently teaching my 12 year old daughter to drive during school holidays, but learning off road as I did. Cars are faster now days and a lot more traffic and idiots to deal with on the roads, hopefully the age gets raised before she sits her license, but even if it doesn't her first car will probably be likes of a Toyota Echo or something else small and not overpowered. She will do a defensive driving course and anything else I can find to help her combat todays traffic. |
Bantu (52) | ||
| 580187 | 2007-08-17 13:35:00 | I really don't think the high powered cars are the big problem. I have taken a stock 1989 1500cc Nissan Sentra over 170kmph. i got my 1330cc auto starlet on three wheels :D i think a mandatory scooter/moped/bike period should be mandatory, or raise only the car up to say 17 and leave mopeds/bikes at 15. i hear that's the story in germany too. reasoning: my experience is the dangerous drivers are those who either can not or simply do not look in their mirrors. on two wheels you learn very quickly to use mirrors - there is a strong incentive the other dangerous drivers are reckless because they do not realise the danger associated with travelling over 30kph. even in a car the human body was only built to fall from a tree at most. at 50-100kph a car crash can rupture spleens and rip hearts from aorta. in a car i feel safe (thus i get 3 wheels), while on a bike, and moreso a scooter, going into a corner too fast is scary. likewise having to dodge some idiot scares the **** out of you yet the idiot doesn't realise the danger you were in, so... i would hope if learners learnt on an 'unsafe' vehicle where you are exposed like on a scooter/bike, they may carry good habits into cars, and potentially even lower the number/percentage of BLIND drivers as new drivers are more aware and old drivers get more used to bikes popping up everywhere i also say raise cars and leave scooters/bikes as that way 15-17 year olds can still get from a to b easily if they need to (and without going broke on petrol) perhaps some will get the riding bug and help to not make traffic worse. also, they can't take passengers they learn alot about how even one beer can affect your responses, judgement and balance and last but not least, natural selection should remove some the idiots who still manage to hurt themselves without them killing anyone else in the process (when was the last time you heard of a scooter or even a bike killing a pedestrian? - the only one i've seen was a bike doing over 200kph into the side of a car) |
motorbyclist (188) | ||
| 580188 | 2007-08-17 14:49:00 | Seriously, young f**kers today have no sense of earning a car or respecting it. They just get one off the drug money or save their dole money or whatever, I think I may have been in the last of generation of working your butt off to get a rust bucket. These days people dont even ask to learn how to drive, they just jump in and figure it out as they go. The worst way if there is noone to guide you. i hate driving now as too many dickheads around who are just either blind/dumb/stupid/ignorant or just plain retarded. | rob_on_guitar (4196) | ||
| 580189 | 2007-08-18 00:39:00 | I resent that comment. Im 21, and have had my full license now for over 4 years. I am in my 3rd year at university doing electrical engineering, and also have a part-time job so i can cover all my costs, rent etc each week, and no, i dont get any drug/dole money. Any of you people out there that are from UC will know how hard engineers have to work at uni! My dad was more than happy to take me out in our wee 1.3 ford laser in the weekend when i had just got my learners at 15 and teach me how to drive a manual properly. I haven't had a single incident in a car ever, no speeding tickets, nothing. You never hear about the ones aged 18-24 who DONT crash/drink-drive/speed etc do you.... Man, what kinda job do ya have if ya have to work ya butt of just to get a rust-bucket? |
stephen (9719) | ||
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