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Thread ID: 81976	2007-08-12 22:37:00	Should the driving age be raised to 18 ?	Digby (677)	PC World Chat

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580160	2007-08-13 23:43:00	I'm not joking about the younger age. Most males seem to get their cars mixed up with their sexuality, start them driving early before they turn into testosterone junkies. I agree totaly with Sue maybe start driver training from 12. tedheath	tedheath (537)
580161	2007-08-13 23:49:00	Most males seem to get their cars mixed up with their sexuality, start them driving early before they turn into testosterone junkies.Um, when I was 18, each was a good substitute for when the other wasn't available. Although it was a close thing... I turned on the car a bit less than the other! :D	Greg (193)
580162	2007-08-14 00:54:00	I say yes, we must be one of the few countries in the world with such a ludicrously low age . Regards Digby People seem to think that the only other countries that have such a low driving age are underdeveloped countries like Somalia! That is not true . The United States of course varies by state, but most states have the learner's permit age at 14 . 5 to 15, some having it as low as 14! Besides, who cares what the rest of the world have it at? If they all jumped off a cliff, would you jump off a cliff? It's only a few that give young people a bad name, and those few that do give young people a bad name will probably still be like that at 18 - driving after 10 at night, loading their car up with passengers on restricted licenses - probably even worse, because the legal drinking age is at 18, so they are more likely to have been drinking, and that slows their judgement down . It's not just teenagers - some people as old as thirty are still doing street racing . Besides, what about the kids in rural areas who rely on licenses to get to school? And work? Give them a license and not others? You can't have one rule for some people and another rule for others . That guy was on a learner license at 17 and that goes to show that he was no more mature than a 15 year old . He would probably still have done that as an 18 year old . There are alternatives such as zero tolerance - one chance then that's it, you blow it - introducing simulators before real learner licenses, making it harder to get a license in the first place - the possibilities are endless . I'll bet some of you guys who go ra ra ra 15's way too young got your licenses at age 15, don't lie . You hypocrites .	Marion Wilson (12654)
580163	2007-08-14 01:05:00	People seem to think that the only other countries that have such a low driving age are underdeveloped countries like Somalia! That is not true. The United States of course varies by state, but most states have the learner's permit age at 14.5 to 15, some having it as low as 14! Besides, who cares what the rest of the world have it at? If they all jumped off a cliff, would you jump off a cliff? It's only a few that give young people a bad name, and those few that do give young people a bad name will probably still be like that at 18 - driving after 10 at night, loading their car up with passengers on restricted licenses - probably even worse, because the legal drinking age is at 18, so they are more likely to have been drinking, and that slows their judgement down. It's not just teenagers - some people as old as thirty are still doing street racing. Besides, what about the kids in rural areas who rely on licenses to get to school? And work? Give them a license and not others? You can't have one rule for some people and another rule for others. That guy was on a learner license at 17 and that goes to show that he was no more mature than a 15 year old. He would probably still have done that as an 18 year old. There are alternatives such as zero tolerance - one chance then that's it, you blow it - introducing simulators before real learner licenses, making it harder to get a license in the first place - the possibilities are endless. I'll bet some of you guys who go ra ra ra 15's way too young got your licenses at age 15, don't lie. You hypocrites. Right, To be honest,If the rest of the world jumped off a cliff I would indeed be keen, Cliff Jumping is always a bit of fun.Though I would perhaps have to find a higher cliff. In the first instance it would have to be a pretty mild cliff to convince the entire world to jump off it, and no doubt the pile of bodies would be higher then the cliff. Which makes me wonder if all the people in the world can all line up and jump off a cliff at a faster rate then we breed.....hmmmmm. And would we leave anyone behind to run the television networks?,All the billions waiting in line would have to be entertained somehow.Perhaps the first stage of the plan would require training millions of people to juggle? Anyway. I had my learners license for over a decade, Then they accidentally issued me a full.And I learned to drive at age 13...in a truck. Watch out, I drive daily.	Metla (12)
580164	2007-08-14 01:11:00	God I hate women they are so sensible tedheath	tedheath (537)
580165	2007-08-14 01:48:00	I'll bet some of you guys who go ra ra ra 15's way too young got your licenses at age 15, don't lie. You hypocrites.Yes, I started driving when I was 15. But there is a big difference between the 1970's and now. Cars were more expensive (but gas was cheaper!!) and on the whole a hell of a lot slower - the only cars back then capable of easily acheiving in excess of 100mph were V8's and Mazda RX7's - both expensive options for a teenager to own. They are readily available today and relatively cheap. And there were a lot less vehicles (read: "other idiots") on the road too. Yes, I am going to allow my daughter to learn to drive (she's 15 now), but there will be rules around when and how and they will be strictly enforced by me. My son is nearly 14 - he may not get the privilege of learning to drive at 15 unless there is a big attitude change from him in the next 12 months...	johcar (6283)
580166	2007-08-14 01:49:00	PS. I do think that 15 is too early to learn to drive in today's environment - without controls	johcar (6283)
580167	2007-08-14 03:45:00	Oh? Why did you? Just to see if I could. Rural kids don't have much else to do with their time. "I must say when I did my defensive driving course, I thought it was a complete waste of time." - roddy_boy Don't expect a sensible answer. Have you done a defensive driving course? Most of the content was a waste of time. And the full license test itself was rubbish too. You have to tell the instructor things along the lines of "I'm staying on my side of the road."	roddy_boy (4115)
580168	2007-08-14 04:17:00	Yes There is a noticable maturity difference between the average 16 and 18 year old, won't solve the problems but it will definitely help. Its not all 16 year olds are irresponsible, its simply more are responsible at 18 as they have had a little more life experience as a young adult. Why was it ever set at 16? crazy.	Battleneter2 (9361)
580169	2007-08-14 04:36:00	Have you done a defensive driving course? I've done 2 . The 1st over 35 years ago paid for by a parent of teenage friends before we went on a road trip one Christmas . The 2nd was about 10 yrs later when the NZPO sent all staff that did any driving at work . I don't know what the current courses teach but the emphasis then was thinking about what could happen next and what you could do to reduce the consequences . Battleneter2 - It's 15 not 16 . When I was 15 parents didn't buy their kids Honda CRXs, you got to borrow the family car if you were lucky and God help you if it got damaged . It was the 18 year olds with their own (old) cars that had more incidents .	PaulD (232)
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