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| Thread ID: 81976 | 2007-08-12 22:37:00 | Should the driving age be raised to 18 ? | Digby (677) | PC World Chat |
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| 580140 | 2007-08-13 06:51:00 | The NZ Forces lost 33 Killed in Viet Nam - why so few? They were bloody good soldiers and were aware of the risks. Over the same period the NZ Armed Forces lost more people on NZ Roads. Why, everybody thinks they are a good driver, and accidents are what happens to others. The young foolishly believe they are bomb proof, this coupled with low experience can probably be attributed to their fatality rate. For age group 60 - 65 most mortality is due to natural causes. For the15-25 age group it is the immaturity of themselves or their associates - ie the young idiot behind the wheel is not always the victim or the only victim. Two friends of mine each lost their sons in an accident where the 18yo intoxicated driver of the car escaped unscathed. Perhaps there is some justice because he committed the same crass act a few months later and was the sole victim - losing his license did not stop him from driving - it took a lamp post to do it. |
KenESmith (6287) | ||
| 580141 | 2007-08-13 06:57:00 | the cars are too powerful Pffft, can't say that about my crappy ol' 93 Honda Ascot. But as a 17 year old myself, I have to agree halfway. I think most 15 year olds are simply too immature to drive cars. I say at least a minimum age of 16 for a learners, and 1 year is mandatory to hold the learner license to sit a restricted test. Full license requirements may well stay the same. |
qazwsxokmijn (102) | ||
| 580142 | 2007-08-13 07:53:00 | The NZ Forces lost 33 Killed in Viet Nam - why so few? They were bloody good soldiers and were aware of the risks. Fortunatley it would seem that that trend continues, just a shame the same can't be said for male drivers in NZ. |
winmacguy (3367) | ||
| 580143 | 2007-08-13 08:27:00 | I think 16 is fine, but people should have their cars taken off them if they are caught being idiots and speeding excessively, drinking, drugs, etc. This should also apply even if they don't own the car. Then the idiot who let them drive it can get punished for being an idiot as well. (stolen shouldn't count in that case, provided it was actual theft) That would probably stop them a lot better than just a fine and demerit points (I mean what the heck is the point (har har) of those anyway?) We should stop talking about drivers/roads/cars and just put it all under the category of Carmageddon 4: Real Life Edition |
Agent_24 (57) | ||
| 580144 | 2007-08-13 08:29:00 | Forgot to mention the defencive driving course actually never-u-mind. I did it, and thought it was really good. It should be mandatory. Yeah I agree with that also |
Agent_24 (57) | ||
| 580145 | 2007-08-13 08:46:00 | Yes they should. They should make the cost of speeding fines a lot higher - so people won't want to get them - and also make them pay for them. Not just get off on 5 hours community service. Also they should raise the drinking age back up to 21. at 18 we get 15 - 17 year olds drinking. at 21 we get 18-20 year olds drinking. Its the young generation that can handle their booze. |
Bozo (8540) | ||
| 580146 | 2007-08-13 09:32:00 | I must say when I did my defensive driving course, I thought it was a complete waste of time. It was all about telling us how to pass our full license test, but not really anything useful. It was all about the hazard identification, which, whilst useful, definitely didn't merit taking 6 months off the restricted time. If there was a practical component it possibly would have been more worthwhile. |
roddy_boy (4115) | ||
| 580147 | 2007-08-13 09:55:00 | No it shouldn't. However under 18y.o. drivers should be restricted to cars that are a lower than a certain power. The drinking age should also be put back up to 21, as it is in most other countries. also the police should have the power to seize drivers cars who don't abide by the learners and restricted license rules. | robbyp (2751) | ||
| 580148 | 2007-08-13 09:57:00 | Yes they should. They should make the cost of speeding fines a lot higher - so people won't want to get them - and also make them pay for them. Not just get off on 5 hours community service. Also they should raise the drinking age back up to 21. at 18 we get 15 - 17 year olds drinking. at 21 we get 18-20 year olds drinking. Its the young generation that can handle their booze. They don't care about fines. The police should seize the car from them straightaway, and then sell the car to cover the fine. |
robbyp (2751) | ||
| 580149 | 2007-08-13 10:05:00 | Its not the 15 years old kids getting killed its the 18 to 25 year olds. If you watch digger operators they go through a cocky stage after they been doing it for a while. They try and get faster and faster and they crash the boom or dipper arm into something they shouldnt have. I should know I fix their @#$% ups. I make good money from cocky kids and machinery. Its fine to teach a kid to drive at 15. got my liscence a couple of days after my 15th birthday. I lost it for 6 months when 18 for overtaking without 100 yards visibility on a motorcycle. Money I saved from not driving for 6 months I could spend extra on pis,s so I didnt care When I was a kid Dad would let me steer the car and if not steering I would change gear. Age 12 I was allowed to park or unpark the car (MK2 Zephyr and 100E) into and out of the shed. NZ has been leader in many things and one of the good ones was allowing 15 year olds to drive. ( Bad one was giving women the vote lol) It allowed kids to be useful and their motor skills at that age are first class. Lets face it you dont have old fighter pilots and if you are older than 25 you cant learn to fly with the mil. The problem is the reckless stage that young males go through if they make it to age 25 they are normaly going to survive. tedheath |
tedheath (537) | ||
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