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| Thread ID: 82174 | 2007-08-18 01:15:00 | You Got Albert In A Can? | SurferJoe46 (51) | PC World Chat |
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| 582237 | 2007-08-18 01:15:00 | SPEED OF LIGHT BROKEN . . . . news at ten: This, of course, is utterly impossible under Einstein's special theory of relativity . . . but it's not surprising that the claim comes from the realm of quantum physics, where things start at illogical and get weird from that point on . Both Drs . Gunter Nimtz and Alfons Stahlhofen of the University of Koblenz, were unabashed about violating one of the fundamental laws of the universe as we currently know it . ( . org/abs/0708 . 0681" target="_blank">arxiv . org) Their experiment involved photon tunneling, a phenomena that occurs when a particle slips across or through an apparently uncrossable barrier . The two Scotsman described the work: "In an experiment, microwave photons, energetic packets of light, appeared to travel 'instantaneously' between two prisms forming the halves of a cube placed a meter apart . When the prisms were placed together, photons fired at one edge passed straight through them, as expected . After being moved apart, a majority of the photons were reflected off the first prism they encountered and then picked up by a detector . A few photons appeared to 'tunnel' through the gap separating them as if the prisms were still held together . " Although these photons had traveled further, they arrived at their detector at exactly the same time as the reflected photons . In effect, they had traveled faster than light . " However, a quantum optics expert at the University of Toronto, Aephraim Steinberg, says that despite the results, no major laws were broken . . . . . it's just a matter of interpretation . Old Albert can rest in peace as it appears it's just an concepts-thing here . According to the publication New Scientist: "Steinberg explains Nimtz and Stahlhofen's observations by paralleling a 20-car bullet train departing Chicago for New York . The stopwatch starts when the center of the train leaves the station, but the train drops cars behind at each stop . "So . . . . . " (he states) " . . . . . when the train arrives in New York, now having shed it's load of cars to only two, its true center has moved ahead, although the train itself hasn't exceeded its reported speed . " |
SurferJoe46 (51) | ||
| 582238 | 2007-08-18 01:21:00 | It sounds to me very much like putting the engine before the carriage, which is no problem- people have put the cart before the horse plenty. Shouldn't you be asleep or something SJ? |
Shortcircuit (1666) | ||
| 582239 | 2007-08-18 01:38:00 | It sounds to me very much like putting the engine before the carriage, which is no problem- people have put the cart before the horse plenty. Shouldn't you be asleep or something SJ? Nah...it's 6 PM Friday here..... |
SurferJoe46 (51) | ||
| 582240 | 2007-08-18 01:50:00 | Nah...it's 6 PM Friday here..... Do you want me to repeat the question? :D Now, if you could tell me why I can't install PClinux on a sata2 drive I would be happy. It's one of those ones where the kid is stamping his foot going..."But why can't I?" |
Shortcircuit (1666) | ||
| 582241 | 2007-08-18 03:57:00 | Because . There's always a simple, logical, reason for such problems, Shortcircuit . ;) My guess is that the person doing the installation script didn't have a computer with a SATA2 drive to try it on . :( Doubtless a workaround will appear . |
Graham L (2) | ||
| 582242 | 2007-08-18 04:02:00 | Check arstechnica.com, the theory got totally slammed and on Engadget too. | beeswax34 (63) | ||
| 582243 | 2007-08-18 15:37:00 | Check arstechnica . com, the theory got totally slammed and on Engadget too . I know . . . I just presented this as an interesting article . . not that I believe it or think it's correct . There seem to not be too many articles lately on cold fusion either . . so this is just the next venue . Where is that YouTube site for the perpetual motion machine in Ireland? I seem to have lost it somehow . Interesting though, is the ability to actually measure the length of the beam . . in the analogy of losing a few cars on the train . . . because if there was an article on that . . . it would have been very interesting too . Imagine being able to measure the time factor of the passage of a linear photon stream and correlate the loss of some photons that make the velocity seem to speed up . . . that's a pretty sharp stopwatch . :p |
SurferJoe46 (51) | ||
| 582244 | 2007-08-19 03:48:00 | Thre's some pretty smart timing equipment around. In the 19th century, thre was some multi-exposure photography done which showed that horses did have all hooves off the ground at once. Recently a pulsed laser was fast enough to get a "photograph" of a wave of light. | Graham L (2) | ||
| 582245 | 2007-08-19 04:07:00 | Graham...I was waiting for your input.... | SurferJoe46 (51) | ||
| 582246 | 2007-08-19 11:01:00 | And here's mine:D What about the work of Roger Penrose? have a read of this from The Hindu; www.hinduonnet.com and this stuff from the googler; www.google.com Mind boggling stuff.:waughh: |
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