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Thread ID: 82691	2007-09-04 22:37:00	Is Clark vrs Moore the beginning of a carefully orchestrated internal coup/	netchicken (4843)	PC World Chat

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587967	2007-09-04 22:37:00	A guy below wrote the following, which is interesting to contemplate . Moore would get my vote based on his international successes . Labour is very aware that the chances of a Clark led Labour party winning a fourth term is remote . Is this Moore/Clark slanging match a prelude to Clark being dumped and what Labour sees as a far more widely acceptable Moore being stood in her place . Perhaps this is not a matter of an isolated external attack on Clark, but a very determined internal action and uprising within the party, to rid themselves of a leader who is daily becoming more erratic, embittered, and irrational, in exactly the manner of Muldoon did at the end of his reign . Now before you Clark groupies dive in screaming abuse, just think over this issue a little more carefully, you may come to a conclusion that surprises you, and who knows, perhaps the far more approachable Moore just might swing the balance for Labour . . google . com/group/nz . general/browse_thread/thread/6cc2570b1c71778a/c55e75fa1770e31f#c55e75fa1770e31f" target="_blank">groups . google . com	netchicken (4843)
587968	2007-09-04 23:23:00	Maybe there will be a coup while Mrs Davis (spelling) is in Ozz..	paulw (1826)
587969	2007-09-04 23:28:00	You'd have to go a long way to find someone more erratic than Mike Moore in his heyday. Remind me - what were his successes?	PaulD (232)
587970	2007-09-04 23:30:00	Remind me - what were his successes? Prime minister WTO head	Rob99 (151)
587971	2007-09-04 23:47:00	Prime minister Two months, followed by 3 years as Leader of the Opposition until rolled by Clark WTO head Even with Moore having the backing of the US it was a compromise split term with Thai Deputy Prime Minister Supachai Panitchpakdi taking over after 3 years.	PaulD (232)
587972	2007-09-04 23:56:00	You'd have to go a long way to find someone more erratic than Mike Moore in his heyday. Remind me - what were his successes? Fish and Chips......www.teara.govt.nz	Terry Porritt (14)
587973	2007-09-05 00:11:00	Two months, followed by 3 years as Leader of the Opposition until rolled by Clark Even with Moore having the backing of the US it was a compromise split term with Thai Deputy Prime Minister Supachai Panitchpakdi taking over after 3 years . So I take it you knew, pretty impressive aye . . . more here; . primeminister . govt . nz/oldpms/1990moore . html" target="_blank">www . primeminister . govt . nz	Rob99 (151)
587974	2007-09-05 08:17:00	PaulD chose a good word for his description of Mike Moore. "Erratic" is how many who were around during his time in government would describe him - including me. That's not negating his good points - just that his ability to go off half-cocked on issues not previously discussed with his colleagues made him at times an embarrassment to them. He became party leader (and hence Prime Minister) after resignations by Lange & Palmer while Labour was effectively in chaos. He wasn't a unanimous choice. I heard him last week in a political discussion on RNZ National. He came across as a mixture of garrulous, skiting & particularly nasty towards one of the panellists. Any plot to dump Helen Clark would be doomed to failure if Mike Moore was the suggested replacement. Too many long memories in the party...	Laura (43)
587975	2007-09-05 08:36:00	I didn't choose the word, it was sitting there in the quote netchicken included. The next word was "embittered", I think Michael "I'm a busy man" Basset has that one reserved. Moore's verbal stoush on Nat Radio was with Chris Trotter. Both sides seemed to have the gloves off.	PaulD (232)
587976	2007-09-05 09:41:00	Well, I guess my subconscious memory was showing there, Paul. I agree with you about Bassett. As for Chris Trotter v Mike Moore - the old history obviously still lives, in both interviews & the published word e.g Chris Trotter's columns.	Laura (43)
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