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Thread ID: 82702 2007-09-05 04:21:00 Quality of life. Cicero (40) PC World Chat
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588229 2007-09-07 09:59:00 Try as I might, I cannot for the life of me track down the methodology they used to derive that list, and who calculated it. Anyone know how they calculated the standard of living rankings?

They would not have considered the wretched lot of the Aborigines in that ranking for Australia. There is nothing in New Zealand that compares to it.

Some of you may have seen the Economist's Democracy ratings (www.economist.com) (pdf file) that came out the other day as well. Very interesting. Notice the correlation.
vinref (6194)
588230 2007-09-07 20:20:00 In case you were wondering why there is a queue to get in.

Full democracies 28
Flawed democracies 54
Hybrid regimes 30
Authoritarian regimes 55
Cicero (40)
588231 2007-09-08 04:41:00 There's no place like 127.0.0.1 :D

Hey, my computer has the same set of numbers (127.0.0.1), maybe they are related!
curly (6655)
588232 2007-09-08 05:52:00 Hey, my computer has the same set of numbers (127.0.0.1), maybe they are related!

I think you'll find they are more than related... they probably even mated :blush:
Shortcircuit (1666)
588233 2007-09-08 06:27:00 ...The downside of letting large numbers of immigrants in from lower ranked countries is that it would dramatically and permanently change NZ society and the NZ way of life, and NZ would then plummet down the rankings. The sad thing is that this is already happening, and has been since the early nineties.... Back then I was working for a bank and the immigration policies included the requirement for the bringing of $1 million into the country and investing it for at least a month. I don't know how many times I saw the same million arrive via TT from Hong Kong and get sent back to be recycled by another family member five or six weeks later!!

But IMHO, it's not the relatively low population of NZ that is the issue, it's the life-attitude promulgated by the gummint on the unthinking populace over a number of years that has led to the downward spiral. Gummint in NZ (all of them) loves interfering in people's lives - because they, of course, know better. Rather than trying to plan our lives out to the nth degree of detail, they should be standing back and passing legislation, only when necessary, that encourages risk-takers and the taking responsibility for one's own actions...

www.nationmaster.com is an interesting site.

And it depends what you measure (and how you measure it) - this (www.nationmaster.com) seems to suggest that Kiwis are happier than Aussies (#11 vs. #14 respectively)
johcar (6283)
588234 2007-09-08 06:54:00 The sad thing is that this is already happening, and has been since the early nineties.... Back then I was working for a bank and the immigration policies included the requirement for the bringing of $1 million into the country and investing it for at least a month. I don't know how many times I saw the same million arrive via TT from Hong Kong and get sent back to be recycled by another family member five or six weeks later!!

But IMHO, it's not the relatively low population of NZ that is the issue, it's the life-attitude promulgated by the gummint on the unthinking populace over a number of years that has led to the downward spiral. Gummint in NZ (all of them) loves interfering in people's lives - because they, of course, know better. Rather than trying to plan our lives out to the nth degree of detail, they should be standing back and passing legislation, only when necessary, that encourages risk-takers and the taking responsibility for one's own actions...

www.nationmaster.com is an interesting site.

And it depends what you measure (and how you measure it) - this (www.nationmaster.com) seems to suggest that Kiwis are happier than Aussies (#11 vs. #14 respectively)

Stay there Jo,I will be round in a min and sign you up with we National lads.
Cicero (40)
588235 2007-09-08 07:08:00 Stay there Jo,I will be round in a min and sign you up with we National lads . :lol: Cheers Cic, but blue isn't really my colour (not black either), although it is more attractive than red or green!

I guess I'm a bit of a right-wing anarchist, if labels are being sought . . . .

Less gummint is more!! :thumbs: :thumbs:

John
johcar (6283)
588236 2007-09-10 03:41:00 Is it really about how many people leave, or come into NZ? Or is it about how they loved or hated their time here? Many people leave because they have to (jobs, relationships etc).

When talking about quality of something, especially life, numbers mean nothing for a small country like us.One thing that many migrants forget is that they can't avoid taking themselves when they leave. Many would moan wherever they were. And they'd still hate the government, even (especially?) in a Utopia.
Graham L (2)
588237 2007-09-10 04:53:00 One thing that many migrants forget is that they can't avoid taking themselves when they leave. Many would moan wherever they were. And they'd still hate the government, even (especially?) in a Utopia.

Spoken like a true pinky.
Cicero (40)
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