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| Thread ID: 82702 | 2007-09-05 04:21:00 | Quality of life. | Cicero (40) | PC World Chat |
| Post ID | Timestamp | Content | User | ||
| 588219 | 2007-09-07 01:09:00 | NZ is still a better place to live than any other country FULL STOP! How can you say that? Have you lived in every other country? |
Bantu (52) | ||
| 588220 | 2007-09-07 01:12:00 | On the Daily Telegraph List NZ ranked number 20, whether that is their correct place or not, and whether Norway and Iceland really deserve to occupy the two top spaces is debatable. However, there are a couple of salient facts- The quality of life in NZ has deteriorated over the last 30 years, and NZ no longer rates comparatively as high in relation other Western Countries as it previously did, and it is successive governments that are responsible for this. Even ranked twenty the majority of the countries in the world rank below NZ, such as countries in Eastern Europe and especially in Asia, Africa, South America. So there are millions who would gladly move if they had the chance. The downside of letting large numbers of immigrants in from lower ranked countries is that it would dramatically and permanently change NZ society and the NZ way of life, and NZ would then plummet down the rankings. NZ does not want to go down the path that the UK has with substantial numbers of their citizens having no real allegiance to the country, and with the associated distinct danger of importing racial tensions, foreign ethnic and religious strife and possibly terrorism. To retain what one has a degree of selfish pragmatism is necessary, coupled with sensible controls of immigration. This is not racialism it is realistic common sense. People wish to who move to any country should have to fit in with the society they wish to adopt and not expect it to be vice versa. |
KenESmith (6287) | ||
| 588221 | 2007-09-07 03:41:00 | Actually this is the same argument that many Americans drag out as to how great their country is, that fact that many want to move there. When you point out that other first world nations are not beating their door down to get in, and that only 3rd world people want to immigrate they refuse to accept it. Same here, sure 3rd world nation populations want to come here, heck they want to go ANYWHERE. That does not mean squat in this debate. Just how many 1st world nation people are pounding on the door to get in, and why do they move? Why is our population stagant or declining when we are such a "paradise". Why are kiwis leaving in droves and not returning if its its so great? Its not, people vote with their feet, and they are not walking in this direction. Why would people "kill" to move from one great country to another, Thats retarded. Of course the people who want to move somewhere better are coming from some place worse, THATS THE POINT. Who cares where you have it good, as long as its good, NZ is a small place, the world is huge, alive, vibrant and full of opportunity, It beckons, Its easy to travel, Change the scene, live a new way, Of course people are going to go out and experience it. That doesn't make our slice of Paradise bad. |
Metla (12) | ||
| 588222 | 2007-09-07 05:26:00 | ......."You may recall the scandalous case in the late nineties of the elderly man in Kaitaia whom the Northland Health Board tried to force to sell his home to pay for for his elderly chronically ill wife's care in the Kaitaia Public Hospital - if they had been younger than 65 there would have not been any charge - blatant age discrimination against someone who has paid his dues all his working life, the only reason the Northland Health Board backed off was because of the public outcry."....... Actually it was Jenny Shipley who decreed that whilst you could be sick when under the age of 65, once you were over that age then you were no longer classed as sick, but as suffering from senility. Thus under that atrocious National Government you were expected to use up all your assets and that of your spouse to pay for extended care. So the Health Board was just implementing the rules. |
Terry Porritt (14) | ||
| 588223 | 2007-09-07 05:35:00 | Actually it was Jenny Shipley who decreed that whilst you could be sick when under the age of 65, once you were over that age then you were no longer classed as sick, but as suffering from senility. Thus under that atrocious National Government you were expected to use up all your assets and that of your spouse to pay for extended care. So the Health Board was just implementing the rules. Both Shipley and Bolger were twerps,but no more than your mate Clarke and finance minister(name escapes me). |
Cicero (40) | ||
| 588224 | 2007-09-07 07:38:00 | Is it really about how many people leave, or come into NZ? Or is it about how they loved or hated their time here? Many people leave because they have to (jobs, relationships etc). When talking about quality of something, especially life, numbers mean nothing for a small country like us. |
--Wolf-- (128) | ||
| 588225 | 2007-09-07 07:41:00 | Both Shipley and Bolger were twerps,but no more than your mate Clarke and finance minister(name escapes me). Michael Cullen. |
beeswax34 (63) | ||
| 588226 | 2007-09-07 08:08:00 | Michael Cullen. Thats the git. |
Cicero (40) | ||
| 588227 | 2007-09-07 08:34:00 | Thats the git. Yeah, he plays golf at nearby Waiohiki, Napier Golf Course, however doesnt appear to play with anyone? Allegedly, he gets too much flak! |
SolMiester (139) | ||
| 588228 | 2007-09-07 09:01:00 | Yeah, he plays golf at nearby Waiohiki, Napier Golf Course, however doesn't appear to play with anyone? Allegedly, he gets too much flak! Terry would give him a game,they could criticise Douglas to there hearts content all the way round 18. |
Cicero (40) | ||
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